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Topic: Shaykh Fawzi advises those in the America to stay in contact with Darul Hadeeth!
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 Muhibb.Salafi
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assalamu alaikum
I ask Allah to reward our brothers and that he establish them on the sunnah and make them a thorn in the necks of the Hizbees.
The brothers maa shaa'Allah took the case of abu usamah al khalafi to the scholars which led to this evil man being exposed and at that time many people were still working with him and supporting him.
I hope that they continue spreading this pure dawah and dont pay attention to those who are jealous and ignorant.
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| al-haddul-faasil
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Assalaamu Alaykum
May Allaah give Tawfeeq to the brothers.
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| jalil.meekins
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as-Salaamu alaykum-
As for brother salafi2000 then his connection with darul Hadeeth in Philadelphia is well known amongst those who know him and even though I will not identify him without his permission I will add that him and I spoke a few days ago and he is currently working on a detailed post in reference to Aboo Muhammad al-Mughrabee in order to make things clear and Allah knows best. Inshaa'Allah we should be expecting this soon and success is for Allah. As for Aboo Muhammad al-Mughrabee's connection with IIIN then this is also well knowned in the Philly/Jersy area and if one wants proof he could call the bookstore { IIN } in order to hear him pick up the phone and his voice should be enough of a proof. Also if one wants a detailed established back round on brother Aboo Muhammad Rudwan al-Mughrabee then I strongely advise my noble brothers to contact Darul Hadeeth personally so that the finial line can be drawn.
Love for Ahlus-Sunnah wa Hadeeth Aboo Zaahid
This message was edited by jalil.meekins on 10-25-02 @ 3:31 AM
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| Moosaa
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and for people who use alqaab like nooniyyah or salafee or anonymous names like them...
No disrespect at all, as remaining anonymous is permissible, but if you have important information to relate, then we are people of the isnaad, and it is very important for us to be concerned with the asaaneed of people's reports in this atmosphere of fitnah, so realize that you have made yourselves MUBHAM in the chain of narration. So when it is asked "who is salafee3000?" please be humble and identify yourselves, unless someone can claim that everyone on this board is undeniably thiqah, then we'll just take everything everyone says , like its a case of ibhaam As-Sahaabah.
Moosaa
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سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك
أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
أستغفرك وأتوب إليك
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| Moosaa
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IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION
I said earlier in this thread when someone mentioned Aboo Muhammad Al-Maghribee:
"Aboo Muhammad Al-Maghribee - what did he do exactly? When he came this summer to Makkah, he sat with Shaykh Rabee', and as the maghribee student of shaykh Rabee' (Aboo Ishaaq) said, the brother is salafee and understands issues and positions well. Can someone clarify his recent actions/statements, may Allaah reward you?"
1. As for my mention of our brother Aboo Ishaaq Al-Maghribee, one of the students of Shaykh Rabee', I only referred to him since he was present when Aboo Muhammad met with Sh. Rabee' this summer.
Aboo Ishaaq is young brother who studies under Shaykh Rabee'. I did not intend to raise his level by referring to him in this affair, and it would have been better to not mention his name, qaddarallaahu wa maa shaa' fa'ala. As I said, I only mentioned him since he was there, not because he is a reference point or a student of knowledge who is referred to in these kinds of affairs. And he only conveyed his feeling about the meeting, that Aboo Muhammad seemed to be up on affairs. I was not thinking that some may read my post and not knowing the reality of the different levels that students are on, place him on a level that he is not on, and thus take what I said for much more than what it is worth. I apologize for misrepresenting the brother (Aboo Ishaaq) and we ask Allaah to increase him in goodness. And I also want to thank the brother with the good insight that pointed this out to me.
2. As for the reality of Aboo Muhammad Al-Maghribee, I was not defending him or claiming to know him well at all, rather I was seeking clarification from the salafee brothers in Philidelphia about him. I only met him this summer and therefore I do not know the details about him like the brothers in Philadelphia. So I say if the brothers who are known for their salafiyyah in Philadelphia have knowledge of his affair due to their closeness to him and dealings with him, then our general opinion of him here in Makkah is not worth anything compared to that.
Actually, Nooniyyah's statement: "Abu Muhammed Al-Margribi works and helps run IIIN" was something I did not know.
3. I still would like more details about Salafiyyah2000's statement: "So Abu Muhammad al Maghrabi will get on the minbar and speak against the salafis, yet his claim is that he is only "Teaching tawheed"." and also: "So if this Abu Muhammad Al Maghribi is clear, then why is it that he so closely works with IIIN, speaks out against Daarul Hadeeth but never speaks out against the hizbees!" What exactly did he say? And I mean no offense, but SALAFIYYAH2000, are you connected to Daar Al-Hadeeth? If not, could someone connected to them confirm his statement and/or provide additional details. May Allaah reward you.
Your brother
Moosaa
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سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك
أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
أستغفرك وأتوب إليك
This message was edited by Moosaa on 10-24-02 @ 9:18 AM
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| Abul.HasanMalik
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The actual address of the Da'wah center is:
Dar Al-Hadeeth 435 N. 60th Street Philadelphia, PA 19151
Jazaakumullahu Khairan
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| AbuKhadeejahSP
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Asslaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaah,
Alhamdillaah - This summer I was blessed by Allaah with the opportunity of visiting our Salafi brothers in Canada. Present also was the noble Shaykh Fawzee al-Atharee.
Myself and Hasan as-Somaalee met many brothers from the different parts of Canada and the USA. I was impressed by the love of Salafiyyah I saw from the brothers. They showed great concern for the truth and its people. I was amazed by the brotherhood, open heartedness and selflessness I experienced.
Da'watus-Salafiyyah is alive and kicking in North America and may Allaah preserve and strengthen it.
There were certain individuals who I was humbled by when I met them - I saw in them love and desire to establish the Salafi da'wah upon the guidance of the major Scholars. Many of them reminded me of the hadeeth of the Messenger (salallaahu alayhi wassalam) in which he stated that there would never cease to remain a group of my Ummah manifest upon the truth. These brothers were, for sure, people of truth, allies of the A'immah of Da'watis-Salafiyyah.
I met with the brothers from Daarul-Hadeeth of Philidelphia, the brothers who are responsible for the website of Daarul-Hadeeth and many others. To name just a few: Kaashif, Tawfeeq, Abul-Hasan Maalik and Abu Muhammad Jamaikee.
So I advise the Salafis to be with these people and aid them and support them. Aid them with your du'aa, and your wealth, and your time and effort, and aid them by defending their honours. And if you see from them errors, then advise them - for they are people of truth, inshaAllaah - and they will accept the truth from wherever it comes.
And we do not glorify anyone beyond Allaah, the Most High.
Wassallaam
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| salafiyyah2000
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Bismilla was Salaatu was Salaam alaa Rasoolillah:
So if this Abu Muhammad Al Maghribi is clear, then why is it that he so closely works with IIIN, speaks out against Daarul Hadeeth but never speaks out against the hizbees! Till today there has been not a single word uttered regarding Abul Hasan Al Maribi from the platform of that Masjid! Abu Muhammad Maghribi is from those who have "ijaaza" to speak from that platform. If he is clear on the issues, then let him portray this clarity in his talks! Yet he does not do so, he would rather speak against the Salafis!
So what can be said about the one who speaks not against the people of opposition, yet freely speaks against the salafis!
Also, it seems from the kalaam of this maghribi, that he went to the mamlakah, put on a show for the scholars, so that he can be known as a salafi, then he returns to the States resuming with his idiotic tactics, and when he is approached regarding his problems, he boastfully claims that the ulemaa know him.
And it skips his mind that those from his country, state, and city are more knowledgable of his affair then our noble scholars. So when Shaykh Muqbil gave Abu Muslimah tazkiyyah (which he later retracted), should we all go back and join that Hizbee!? Or when the Jordanians gave that Canadian (i.e. YayYa Adil) a tazkiyyah even though the brothers at TROID refuted him thoroughly, should we start taking ilm from him!
Abu Muhammad al Maghribi is in no way clear, but rather has much that he must clarify, not to mention he must break his association with IIIN!
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| AnNooniyyah
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Bismilla Was Salaatu Was Salaam Alaa Rasoolillah
Abu Muhammed Al-Margribi works and helps run IIIN.
IIIN still:
1. Sell the tapes and promote Abu Usaamah Al-Mareed Manhajan, after knowing and hearing of his attacks on the scholars.
2. Sell the tapes of Usaamah Al-Qoosi after knowing what Shaykh Faalih, Shaykh Ubaid and others have said about him.
3. Refuse to sell the tapes of the salafi du'aat when they have made rudood against people like Abu Ameenah and Jibaali.
4. Their speaking ill of the brothers in Darul Hadeeth
whilst remaining silent about Abu Usaamah, QSS, SSNA and the other organisations
So the it becomes clear that his understanding is weak and his implementation resembles the callers to Tamy'ee!
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| Moosaa
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Aboo Muhammad Al-Maghribee - what did he do exactly? When he came this summer to Makkah, he sat with Shaykh Rabee', and as the maghribee student of shaykh Rabee' (Aboo Ishaaq) said, the brother is salafee and understands issues and positions well. Can someone clarify his recent actions/statements, may Allaah reward you?
Moosaa
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سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك
أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
أستغفرك وأتوب إليك
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| salafiyyah2000
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All praise is due to Allah, and may His peace and Blessings be upon the Messenger:
To add to what our brother Nooniyyah has said:
While having complete knowledge of what Abu Usaamah al Jaahil said about Shaykh Rabee', they still invited him to thier conference with no remorse whatsoever. And until today they have not seperated themselves from that Jaahil, and as the brother said, they still sell his tapes in their dawah center, while removing the rudood of Abul hasan Maalik upon the hizbees!
So you will go to their dawah center, and you will see the tapes of Abu Usaamah, but if you ask for Abul Hasan's radd on Bilaal Philips, which was done at THEIR conferencem you will be informed that they do not sell it, and if you ask for the tape that Abu Hakeem Bilaal, Hasan as Somaali, and Abul hasan Maalik did in THEIR masjid, and they advised the administration and the brothers in the masjid, you will be informed that they do not sell it!
So what type of Salafiyyah is this that you sell the tapes of Abu Usaamah al Jaahil, one whos toungue does not hold back when it comes to the Ulemaa of this da'wah, but you will not sell the tapes of Abul Hasan Maalik, Hasan as Somaali, Abu Hakeem, because they are refuting the people of innovation!
Also, their minbar is not used to refute ahlul bida'ah but it is becoming known as the source of refutations against the Salafis who take clear mawaaqif against Ahlul Bida'ah, namely our noble brothers at Daarul Hadeeth wal Athar!
So Abu Muhammad al Maghrabi will get on the minbar and speak against the salafis, yet his claim is that he is only "Teaching tawheed".
Also, there is no clear Salafi Organization except that they have taken a clear stance regarding Abul Hasan al Mubtadi', whether it SPUB, TROID, Daarul Hadeeth, etc., they have all made their stance clear on Abul Hasan and his blindfollowers (i.e. QSS, SSNA, Abu Usaamah, Abdul Munim, etc.) so where is their bayaan?!
This message was edited by salafiyyah2000 on 10-16-02 @ 12:09 AM
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| AnNooniyyah
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Bismilla Was Salaatu Was Salaam Alaa Rasoolillah
What is the position of IIIN and Masjidus Sunnah who are also in Philadelphia in all this fitnah?
i. They still sell the tapes of Abu Usaamah.
ii. They still sell the tapes of Usaamah Al-Qoosi.
iii. They are silent on the issue of Abul Hasan.
iv. Their plotting and planning against the clear brothers in Darul HADEETH.
v. Their refusal to sell the tapes of salafi du'aat such as Abul Hasan Maalik which contain refutations on people such as Abu Ameenah Bilaal Philips and Jibaali.
This message was edited by AnNooniyyah on 10-15-02 @ 8:51 PM
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| aboo.shaahir
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Al hamdulillahir rabbil aalameen was salaatu was salaamu 'ala nabeeyinaa Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een
May Allah reward the noble Shaykh Fawzee al-Atharee with khair in this life and the next for his beautiful words of encouragement and admiration in regards to our noble brothers at Daralhadeeth. The brothers at Daralhadeeth, just like the brothers at TROID and Salafipublications are upon CLEAR salafiyyah! In these times of fitnah(i.e. Abul Fitan al-Mubtadi) we in the west need to stick to those who bring us the kalaam of the kibaar ulamaa and the firmly grounded talibul-ilm. The noble Imaam al-Barbahaaree(rahimahullaah) stated in his tremendous book 'Explanation of the Creed' point #108;
"Whoever realises what the innovators have abandoned of the Sunnah and left behind and he clings to it, he is a person of the Sunnah and the Jamaa'ah. He should be followed, helped and protected. He is one of those whom the Prophet(sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) bequeathed should be looked after."
May Allaah preserve the brothers at Daralhadeeth, TROID and Salafipublications...aameen!
Aboo Shaahir as-Salafee
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| abu.hakeem
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Al hamdulillahir rabbil aalameen was salaatu was salaamu 'ala nabeeyinaa muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een
May allah bless our brothers there at daarul hadeeth and grant them aid against those who oppose them due to that which they are upon from da'wah and manhaj.
For indeed we saw from them (during our visit to them) that which brings joy to the heart of any salafi ghuyoor upon this manhaj,from defense of ahlul ilm and promotion of this pure manhaj, being un-affected by the principles of baatil spread in the west at the hands of the supporters of al misri, al maghraawi, al uroor, those so called 'salafi' organisations and callers whose efforts have been channeled into refuting and belittling the proponants of the da'wah that they claim to be calling to...wallahul musta'aan wa alaihit tuklaan.
So may allah increase them in tawfeeq and thabaat.
Wal hamdullillahir rabbil aalameen.
Abu Hakeem Bilaal Davis
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| Abul.HasanMalik
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Salaam alaikum
The new number to Dar Al-Hadeeth wal-Athar is:
215-471-0913
The contact brothers are: Abu Zubair Abdul-Azeez, Abu Muhammad Nadir Al-Jamaiky, Abu Zainab Tawfeeq, Abu Hanifah Zahir, and also our brother Hasan As-Sumali is now on the States teaching at the masjid and assisting the brothers at the center. May Allah reward them and keep us and them upon the manhaj As-Salafi.
Abul-Hasan Malik Al-Akhdar
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| MuhammedNubi
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assalam alaikum,
that number is not working at the moment because darul hadeeth wal athar is moving to their new location closer to masjid al-khair. so as soon as their new number is made available inshallah it will be given.
salam alaikum
mohammed alnoobi
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| faruq.as-salafi
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The number 215-739-6727 is disconnected eqwaan. Is there another number?
Baarak-Allaahu Feekum - wa sal-Allaahu wa-sallam 'alaa Nabiyyinaa Muhammad,
was-Salaam 'alaykum wa-Rahmatullaahe wa-Barakaatuh.
Abu' Salafi'ayn
As-Salafiyoon in Cleveland
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| Abdusalaam1
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barakallahu feekum ya shaykh fawzi and abu hasan.
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| MuhammedNubi
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assalam alaikum wa rahmatullah,
at the current time Masjid Al-Khair is holding the following classes:
Monday,Wednesday,Friday(with the permission of Allaah)
the sharh(meaning(s)-the sharh from various shuyukh-)of the three fundamental principles(alusool thalatha)between maghrib and isha, medina arabic books(currently book 1) class is held on sunday(after salatul asr). the classes that are held on Monday,Wednesday and Friday is recorded(contact darul hadeeth wal athar for info on the tapes,etc.)Because of the large turn out of brothers and the current situation of the masjid(under construction)at this time the masjid is not suitable for sisters,May Allaah allow the masjid and the community to continue to move forward to meet the needs of the people and firstly for the pleasure of Allaah. May Allaah reward the brother Hasan as-sumaalee and the brothers of darul hadeeth wal athar for their efforts,advice,teaching,and for connecting the salafies of phildaelphia to the ulema.ameen
salam alaikum
Muhammed Al-noobi
--Imaam Maalik(rahimahullah) used to say: knowledge is not the multiplying of narrations,rather knowledge is that which benefits and is used to perform good deeds--
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| AnNooniyyah
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assalam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu wa maghfiruh
The location of Masjid Al-Khair:
Masjid Al-Khair
6028 Summer St.
Philadelphia PA 19139
USA
Can Muhammed tell us what lessons are beng taught and what days.!!!!!!!!!
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