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mmcgeorge
20-09-2002 @ 12:00 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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to whom it may concern:

as a non muslim studying the various aspects of islam i am confused as to the many different belief systems that many muslim hold to and i would like to know which one of the many do u know to follow?

i have read many, many things about islam and have been benefiting so far from the other posts in this site.

any information u can give me would be helpful.

thank u

aboo.sufyaan
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It is wonderful to see that you are interested in Islaam. May Allaah (God) guide you to the truth and then establish your feet firmly upon it.

As for your question, you should know that the correct, pristine Islaamic belief is firmly established in the final revelation of Allaah, the Qur'aan, and the Sunnah of His Messenger Muhammad (which is also revelation), upon the understanding and implementation of the Companions of Muhammad and those early generations who follow them in goodness.

As I'm sure you've seen in some of the posts, there are many groups and individuals amongst the Muslims who have deviated from this clear methodology and have innovated new beliefs, or have subtracted some, and/or altered some to fit their desires or to try to get the beliefs of Islaam to fit their 'intellects' or logic.  Just like when child has that toy where he has to put the square block in the square hole, and the triangle in the triangular hole, and the star shaped block in the star shaped hole. These people try to force the round block into the star shaped hole, so they attempt to cut away parts of the block to get it to fit. Many from amongst the scholars of the past have written books to clarify the pure, unadulterated creed of Islaam to the people when these groups popped up with their newly-invented beliefs, and then refute these groups and beliefs to protect the people from falling into them.  And all praise is due to Allaah, the scholars have continued up until this time of ours, as I'm sure you have seen in the posts.

If you really want to understand the correct belief of Islaam, then you have to start with the belief in Allaah (God). Know, may Allaah guide me and you, that the fundamental principle of Islaam is what is known as
' Tawheed ', the Oneness of Allaah the Most High, singling Him out in worship.  He Alone is the Creator and Sustainer, the Arranger of the affairs of His creation. He Alone is deserving of being called upon, feared and awed, hoped in, loved, sacrificed for, sworn an oath or vow by, prayed to, fasted for, and so on. For Allaah are the most beautiful names which He has named Himself by and revealed in His Book and to His Meesenger, as well as those He has kept to Himself. Allaah Alone possesses the attributes and characteristics of perfection, far above and removed from those of the creation and what the creation ascribe to Him.

This singling out Allaah Alone in worship is the purpose of our creation, as He said:

 Adh-Dhariyat (51):56
æóãóÇ ÎóáóÞúÊõ ÇáúÌöäøó æóÇáúÅöäÓó ÅöáøóÇ áöíóÚúÈõÏõæäö

And I (Allâh) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).



And He sent His Prophets and Messengers to call their respective peoples to fulfil this noblest of tasks:

 An-Nahl (16):36
æóáóÞóÏú ÈóÚóËúäóÇ Ýöí ßõáøö ÃõãøóÉò ÑøóÓõæáÇð Ãóäö ÇÚúÈõÏõæÇú Çááøåó æóÇÌúÊóäöÈõæÇú ÇáØøóÇÛõæÊó Ýóãöäúåõã ãøóäú åóÏóì Çááøåõ æóãöäúåõã ãøóäú ÍóÞøóÊú Úóáóíúåö ÇáÖøóáÇáóÉõ ÝóÓöíÑõæÇú Ýöí ÇáÃóÑúÖö ÝóÇäÙõÑõæÇú ßóíúÝó ßóÇäó ÚóÇÞöÈóÉõ ÇáúãõßóÐøöÈöíäó

And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allâh (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Tâghût[] (all false deities, etc. i.e. do not worship Tâghût besides Allâh)." Then of them were some whom Allâh guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth).



 An-Nisa (4):36
æóÇÚúÈõÏõæÇú Çááøåó æóáÇó ÊõÔúÑößõæÇú Èöåö ÔóíúÆðÇ æóÈöÇáúæóÇáöÏóíúäö ÅöÍúÓóÇäðÇ æóÈöÐöí ÇáúÞõÑúÈóì æóÇáúíóÊóÇãóì æóÇáúãóÓóÇßöíäö æóÇáúÌóÇÑö Ðöí ÇáúÞõÑúÈóì æóÇáúÌóÇÑö ÇáúÌõäõÈö æóÇáÕøóÇÍöÈö ÈöÇáÌóäÈö æóÇÈúäö ÇáÓøóÈöíáö æóãóÇ ãóáóßóÊú ÃóíúãóÇäõßõãú Åöäøó Çááøåó áÇó íõÍöÈøõ ãóä ßóÇäó ãõÎúÊóÇáÇð ÝóÎõæÑðÇ

Worship Allâh and join none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, Al-Masâkin (the poor), the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, Allâh does not like such as are proud and boastful;



And His Messenger Jesus, son of Mary, said:

 Aali Imran (3):51
Åöäøó Çááøåó ÑóÈøöí æóÑóÈøõßõãú ÝóÇÚúÈõÏõæåõ åóÜÐóÇ ÕöÑóÇØñ ãøõÓúÊóÞöíãñ

Truly! Allâh is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him (Alone). This is the Straight Path.



As Muslims we believe that All-Mighty Allaah is free from comparison to the characteristics of His creation. It is not befitting His Majesty and Grandeur to have parents or children, uncles or aunts, or partners who have a share in His creation or deserve to be worshipped along with Him.
This is the greatest sin in front of Allaah, which He will not forgive if a person dies whilst he commits it. Allaah says:

 An-Nisa (4):48
Åöäøó Çááøåó áÇó íóÛúÝöÑõ Ãóä íõÔúÑóßó Èöåö æóíóÛúÝöÑõ ãóÇ Ïõæäó Ðóáößó áöãóä íóÔóÇÁ æóãóä íõÔúÑößú ÈöÇááøåö ÝóÞóÏö ÇÝúÊóÑóì ÅöËúãðÇ ÚóÙöíãðÇ

Verily, Allâh forgives not that partners should be set up with him in worship, but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases, and whoever sets up partners with Allâh in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin.



So the first who wants to seek the truth must start with this, the Oneness and Uniqueness of Allaah, the Most Compassionate and Wise. If you agree with this, then we can move onto that which follows it.

So let this be the first thing that you focus on in your studies. I hope that what I wrote was understandable and answered your question, or that you will excuse my rambling.


abu.sagheer
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May Allah reward you for this beneficial post aboo.sufyaan. I hope the other members can contribute to the important questions of this respected lady.

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To mmcgeorge:

Welcome to this message board and thanks for your questions. I found the following articles very informative and they may answer some of the questions you have raised, and perhaps others that might come to mind later:

Frequently Asked Questions on Islaam and the Muslims

Regards




Oem_Imaan
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Bismillaah

I would like to begin with saying that if you find any wrong in this reply it of me and all good is of Allaah, if one of the brothers/sisters find a mistake in it please do not hesitate to correct me and all those who wish to benefit from it take only the good and leave the wrong.

This reply is based upon my personal experience and this is not a saheeh daleel (strong proof) in Islaam, so it is just meant to be some naseeha (advise) insha Allaah.

I became a Muslimah (female Muslim) when i was 17 and i started doing the obvious like praying, wearing hijaab and adopting the islamic adaab (etiquette), without knowing it i found myself in a kind of harirah (a moroccan soup were you throw all kinds of ingredients in and at the end you nearly don't recognise one from the other and you don't know if maybe you forgot something essential or put something too much in it, for a soup this is nice and tasty but as a way of life you need to be a bit more correct right?).

In the year before my marriage i found myself engaged in so-called da'wah giving lectures to the younger generations, writing articles and studying law at the university, however when i looked at myself i didn't see the the proper Muslimah and found my imaan (faith) to be very weak, but nobody out of the part of the Ummah (Muslim community) that surrounded me gave any nourishment to it as they all found i was doing so well.

Allaah had mercy on me and answered my du'aa (supplication) by sending me the finest husband on earth a revert too but who had been welcomed into this beautiful Ummah by people who understood Islaam through the proper beliefs and methodology, this is through Qur'aan, Sunnah and the comprehension of the pious predecessors and all those who have followed them.

So we discussed our views for the future and especially concerning our religion, our mutual goal was to grow and one can only do that if the roots are strong, so we had to brake down all that we had 'established' to start rebuidling with the fundaments in order to have a reliable roof above our heads.

The first step was aqeedah (creed), what do you belief as a Muslim, this is what brings you into Islaam and what can bring you out of Islaam if you deviate from it. For example if you belief in Allaah than you are in Islaam, but if you deny the existance of the angels you are out of Islaam. There are 6 pillars of Imaan (faith)

1. belief in Allaah
2. "       " the Prophets
3. "       " the Books
4. "       " the angels
5. "       " the Day of Resurection
6. "       " predestination (it's good and it's bad)

When you have the right aqeedah your deeds will easily follow and the way you perform these deeds or the methodology you use is based on the level of manhaj (methodology), and this is were the different groups and parties in Islaam are discussed. Aqeedah and manhaj are tightly linked to one another, so it's kind of a 2in1 issue.

It's not enough to have faith (imaan) in your heart, you should have knowledge about that what you believe in, in order to perform the right deeds in Islaam (ibaadah) so they can be accepted and rewarded by Allaah the Most High, and that is our goal, to be accepted by Allaah through correct worship and this can only be achieved through knowledge. And worship is more than prayer, it can be a simple smile that is been given, but it should be done properly which can only be achieved through knowledge, because a smile is not a small thing

My naseeha (advise) is to start learning about the right aqeedah, this does not mean you should ignore the existence of different groups & parties, but aqeedah is the first step that enables you to make the difference between what is right and wrong and to guard yourself from deviation.
One should have knowledge of both sides, this is the strongest base to stay on the right side of the path.

I recommend you read on the subject of aqeedah the online printable article Aqeedatul-Waasitiyyah it's long but please read it, and buy the affordable audio cassette [url=http://www.salafibookstore.com/sbs/index.cfm?scn=cassettes&ProductID=S7.001&do=detail&cassette=]Creed Comes First... No Doubt![/url], other beneficial reading on aqeedah is [url=http://www.salafibookstore.com/sbs/index.cfm?scn=books&ProductID=B330&do=detail&book=]The Correct Islamic Aqeedah and that Which Opposes It[/url] and the explanation of the first article i mentioned [url=http://www.salafibookstore.com/sbs/index.cfm?scn=books&ProductID=B015&do=detail&book=]Sharh Al-Aqeedat-il-Wasitiyah[/url].

On the subject of manhaj there is [url=http://www.salafibookstore.com/sbs/index.cfm?scn=books&ProductID=B196&do=detail&book=]The Methodology of the Saved Sect[/url] which is a beautiful book masha Allaah.

Further more you can browse www.salafipublications.com they have a section for non-muslims, new muslims, etc. but start with [url=http://www.salafipublications.com/sps/sp.cfm?secID=AQD&loadpage=displaysection.cfm]aqeedah[/url]

Try and read these works, as this reply is not at all detailed due to many terms that might be totally new to you, but the mentioned works will give you very good insight bi idnilaah.

I'll end it here insha Allaah and i'm so sorry for the long reply, i pray it may be of benefit.

Hidaakum ullaah and sincere greetings.
Oem Imaan

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mmcgeorge
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just a short note in reply to ur post to the one i posted.

i just wanted to tell u that the questions u posed for me are much harder and longer to answer.  but i just finished studying about the monotheism aspect of islam and have that down pat and understand it pretty well.  there is always room for improvement on my end to learn all that i can.

thanks for the post back though it was appreciated.

with warm wishes, Mary

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aboo.sufyaan
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As-Salaamu 'alaykum,

I'd like to respond to Mary, but if she can let me address a couple of things to those of us who replied to her original question first:

Just a reminder for the brothers and sisters that you are replying to a NON-MUSLIM, so your posts should be geared for NON-MUSLIMS, barakAllaahu feekum.

Oem_Imaan, jazaki-llaahu khairan, I have one correction from your beneficial post, about a mistake in manhaj not necessarily being a mistake in 'Aqeedah. ash-Shaykh, al-'Allaamah Rabee' ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee (hafidhahullah) responded to this recently in a tele-link to the brothers in Kuwait by saying that this is incorrect and that a mistake in manhaj IS necessarily a mistake in 'aqeedah. And I'm sure more knowlegeable brothers like Aboo Tasneem and Abu 'Iyyaad could shed more light on that for you and the rest of us, only in a different forum and a different post as this isn't the right place.
BarakAllaahu feekum.

Mary, may Allaah the Most High guide you to His Straight Path. Now that you've been studying Tawheed (Islaamic monotheism), do you agree with and accept that the Creator is One without any partners and with no similarity to His creation? If the answer is 'yes', then the next question I would ask you is: What do you believe in regards to Muhammad being His Messenger and Prophet?
The reason I ask is that if you believe in God's Oneness and Uniqueness, and you believe that Muhammad is His Messenger, then you need only profess that belief with your tongue and become a Muslim. There is no tank of water for you to be dunked in or rights of initiation to go through - just a simple statement.

If you enter Islaam, may Allaah guide both of us to that which He is pleased with and loves, then He, the Most Merciful and Kind, has prepared for you His Paradise, and what will make you known about His Paradise!
Allaah said, as narrated by His Prophet:  ?I have prepared for my righteous servants that which no eye has ever seen, no ear has ever heard, and that which has never even crossed the mind of any human being.?  Then Prophet Muhammad said:  ?Recite if you wish:  ?No person knows what is kept hidden for them of joy as a reward for what they used to do.??  [32:17]

In Paradise, Mary, the delights of Paradise surpass the imagination and defy description!  The buildings of Paradise will be built of bricks of gold and silver, and the mortar between these bricks will be of the most fragrant musk, surrounded by pebbles that are of pearl and sapphires and rubies, surrounded by beautiful, fragrant gardens, rivers of pure honey, non-intoxicating wine, pure, clean water, and milk which never spoils or turns sour.  
Allaah said in the Qur?aan:  ?[there will be] therein all that one?s soul could desire, all that the eyes could delight in, and you will abide therein forever.? [43:71] And Paradise contains all types of fruits for the people of Paradise to eat from, similar only in name to the fruits we find in this life.

And Allaah?s Messenger described the market in Paradise:
?In Paradise there is a market to which the people will come every Friday, then a wind will come from the north and blow on their faces and clothes, and they will increase in beauty.  Then they will return to their wives who will also have increased in their beauty (during their absence).  Their wives will say to them: ?By Allaah, you have increased in beauty after you left us,? and they will say, ?And you too, by Allaah, have increased in beauty since you left us.??
The trunks of its trees will be made of gold, the soil of saffron and musk.  Birds that their size and description cannot be imagined, but when one wants to eat one of them, he need only wish it - and it will be before him in any way he desires it to be prepared!
  
None of the discomforts of this mundane worldly life will be found.  Nothing lacking and nothing evil or foul will be therein. Only the Good Pleasure of your Creator, Glorified and Perfect is He.  But this is reserved for the one who worships Allaah (God) without ascribing to Him partners in worship, or worshipping other than Him, and obeying His last and final Messenger to mankind.  Allaah said:  ?Those who truly believe in Allaah and His Messenger and worship Allaah Alone, making their worship purely and sincerely for Him ? establishing the prayer and giving the Zakaah (charity), and obeying Allaah concerning what He has ordered and forbidden, then they are the best of creation. Their reward is with their Lord on the Day of Resurrection: everlasting gardens with rivers flowing beneath the trees within them.  They will live and remain therein forever and will not die.  Allaah is pleased with them for their obedience to Him in the worldly-life, and they are pleased with Him and the reward He will give them on that Day.?


I don't want to make this too long, or any longer than I have already. I just wanted to pass on some food for thought, as they say.


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to whom it may concern:

i just wanted to pass on that i have set up an appointment with an imam at a local mosque where i live in 2 weeks to say the shehadah (i think that is the right word for it).  it has to be 2 weeks as that will give me time to make sure that i am doing the right thing and to make sure that i learn more about islam and not justify taking my time with it.  also with my work schedule being what it is 2 weeks (the friday of the 4th of October) is the next time i am able to  have a friday off to attend this mosque.

i must say that i am excited about doing this and wish it could be sooner but with my schedule the way it is i am unable to do so.

i hope that u will be blessed by Allah for the comments and posts back in response to the posts i have posted here in this message board site.

with warm wishes
mary

with warm wishes, Mary

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Dear Mary,

I have been following this thread and I am very happy to hear this great news from you!  I have one very important thing to mention...

If you believe in Allaah, and you believe in the Truth that He sent to His Messenger, and you want to accept Islaam, like one of the members here mentioned in the thread, there are no difficult procedures or ceremonies to go through.  If you are convinced, then I encourage you to say the "shahaadah" now, so long as it is what you believe in your heart.  I say this, not to rush you into something, but as a reminder that none of us know when our soul is to be taken.  I do not mean that you should not go to the mosque on the day you have scheduled.  Rather you can go to the mosque any day, not just on Fridays.

Also, it is important to mention that it is not a condition for the shahaadah for one to say it in a mosque or at a public gathering.  You may openly admit to Allaah's Oneness in any place.  We would love to be honored by hearing your testimony of faith here on the board as well!

When you accept Islaam, Mary, you should simply take a bath in your own house privately, then say the following phrase:

"I testify that there is none worthy of being worshipped except Allaah alone, and I further testify that Muhammad is His Messenger."

And if there are some people that you feel may not take this news too well (family  members, co-workers, etc), then you don't have to tell them right now.  The most important thing is to set things right between you and your Lord, and then your Lord will help you with the rest of your affairs.

Upon your saying this, you are considered a Muslim!  And your previous sins will be forgiven!  And you will begin living your life in a truly honorable manner seeking out ways to please your Lord!  I ask Allaah to grant you and me the courage and sincerity needed for such a task!

Moosaa Richardson

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This is great news, Mary! May Allaah guide you and set your feet firm upon His Deen (religion, way of life). Ameen!

Just a small word of caution, and don't take this as an attempt to rush you into taking the shahaadah, as no doubt this is a big step in your life.
If/when you know that Islaam is the Truth, then you need only repeat the following:

Ash-hadu an Laa ilaaha illa llaah, wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan Rasoo-lu llaah

meaning: I bear witness and openly testify that there is none that deserves to be worshipped (in truth) except Allaah (Alone), and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allaah.

This does not have be said in front of any witnesses or in a mosque or special gathering. It just needs to be said sincerely from the heart and with firm belief.
Once you have said it, then you take a shower - thats it. You'll be a Muslim. After that, if you want to get a certificate from the local mosque as proof of your acceptance of Islaam, you can go and see the Imaam. What we fear for you is that somthing, may Allaah forbid, happens to you and you die outside the fold of Islaam. The Prophet said:
"Indeed Allaah has forbidden for Hell the person who says: Laa ilaaha illa llaah (There is none worthy of worship except Allaah), seeking thereby nothing but Allaah's Face (pleasure)."

And he said:
"He who professed that there is no God to be worshipped xcept Allaah, and made a denial of everything which the people worship besides Allaah, his property and blood become inviolable, and his affair rests with Allaah."

As for gaining knowledge, that comes with time, but you don't know when death will overtake you and where. If you are sure, and again I don't want to rush you - and then again I don't want you to delay, out of concern for your hereafter- I know this is a huge undertaking, but if you're sure, repeat this phrase above, and you've crossed the "finish line". You'll be like the brand new baby, as the Prophet said "Islaam wipes away that which came before it". All the things you did before will be forgiven, and Allaah will turn your bad deeds to good ones. Allaahu Akbar (Allaah is the Greatest)! Just too much can happen in two weeks time. Shaytaan (Satan) is not going to let you off the hook that easy. He's going to the Fire and wants to take as many with him as he can, so he'll com whispering and filling you full of doubts and excuses to try to change your mind. If your sure, do it!

Again, I am extremely happy to hear of your decision. This would be wonderful to see someone come to Islaam through this forum. May alah guide you and giveyu stedasnss upon the truth.

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BarakAllaahu feek, Moosaa!

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to whom it may concern:

now i am very confused.  i have been told that i need to make the declaration of faith or the shehadah in front of two witnesses and i have read in these posts of late that i don't need a witness.  help?  what is the consensus of this question.

i am in total agreement that none of us know when our sould will be taken and i should not postpone this for 2 weeks.  but i am not understanding clearly the issue of not having to have witnesses to do this.

any information u can give me to help me have a clearer understanding would be very much appreciated.



with warm wishes, Mary

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Mary,

you don't need two witnesses. You just need to take a bath as Moosaa mentioned in his post, and then say the shahaadah (which we transliterated for you earlier), and that's it! Afterwards, you can announce it here that you've said it. We would all be very happy to hear of your acceptance of Islaam, insha'Allaah.

Please excuse us if we have caused any confusion. Some Muslims have a misconception about having to have two witnesses in order to enter Islaam, but this is baseless.  This maybe why you have heard that you need them.

Also, please excuse some of the other posts that may seem to be more advanced and include information which is not exactly pertinent right now. We are very excited for you and want to help in any way we can.

Hope to hear some good news from you soon, insha'Allaah.

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Two witnesses are not necessary.  Even if they were, you would have all of us here on the message board!

Just a benefit you may like to hear, Mary:

There was a man named Aboo Hurayrah.  He was one of the closest of Muhammad's companions (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam).  His mother was a polytheist and she used to say horrible things about the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam).  So Aboo Hurayrah came to the Messenger one day crying because his mother had said some very bad things about him.  So the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) supplicated to Allaah to guide Aboo Hurayrah's mother.  Notice the exemplary character of the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam), after hearing that someone was speaking ill of him he responded by supplicating for that person!  Anyway, the end result was that Aboo Hurayrah became VERY happy and rushed back to see his mother, as he KNEW that the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) prayed for her, and his supplications were always accepted by Allaah.  When he knocked on the door, his mother was taking a bath.  When she opened the door, she declared her belief in Islaam to her son, after having been a stern enemy of the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) by her speech.  

The benefit from the story is this, Mary:  Aboo Hurayrah's mother became a Muslim after taking a bath (a bath based on what she knew a bath was as a non-Muslim) and declaring her belief.  Her only witness was her son at the time she said it.  This should show you that two witnesses are not necessary.  May Allaah be pleased with Aboo Hurayrah and his mother.

Unfortunately, many Muslims speak about Islaam based on their culture, or based on things that they were raised doing.  This leads them to make mistakes, while they may intend good.

I hope this clarifies the lack of need for two witnesses.

I would further encourage you go to a mosque (when you want to go to a mosque) where the people are known for their adherence to the Qur'aan, the Sunnah, and the correct way of understanding that the early Muslims held.  This may be difficult for you to ascertain at this point, so we ask Allaah to guide you to His Deen, and to those who will help you learn it properly.

Perhaps you can mention your location, and if there is anyone on salafitalk who can offer you some directions, they can post it.

Moosaa Richardson

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mmcgeorge
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to whom it may concern:

just a quick update since yesterday my last post.

i attempted to contact the local masjid here in my town and was very discouraged by what i was told.

i was informed that if i wanted to talk with the imam i would have to do so by email further i was told that the masjid holds to no particular path when asked what path they followed.

needless to say i am going to have to find another masjid closest me other then this one that i may attend and meet other fellow muslims sisters.

my concern though is that i have visited this one masjid while on my search of the truth about islam (that i contacted earlier this morning) and was NOT even greeted very warmly by the few muslim sisters that were in attendance for the friday session.  so i am afraid to even attempt to do this again.

i wanted to include in this post a heartfelt thanks for the posts that have been posted in response to the first one i posted initially.  my eyes have been opened greatly and my understanding has been increased.  thanks to all that posted repsonses.

i do want to end with this though and that is this that i am now very concerned about waiting 2 weeks to attend this one particular masjid that is 45 minutes away from me to say the declaration of faith as i understand that i have no guarantees about my soul and when i will die.  i am sort of at wits end here though as i don't have any muslim sisters that i know of to help me in this.  maybe i am just overly complicating this step.

thanks again:-)

with warm wishes, Mary

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Dear Mary,

I thank Allah,the most merciful for opening your eyes and your heart to the truth,a big smile has been on my face while reading your posts.
I'm so sorry you've found you havent been treated in the best way,from the muslims youve come across recently while in your search for the truth,may i remind u that not all muslims are like this,especially not the ones who have a proper understanding of the religion,and those who adopt the correct manners that the prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings be upon him)taught us to have.
Like the brothers have said in their replies to your posts,when u believe that God is one and u believe that his last messenger was the prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings be upon him)u should not delay bearing witness to that,as like the brothers have said none of us know when our souls will be taken,so all u have to do is take a bath/shower,then announce what they have said(the shahada)with your lips and your heart,u dont have to have witnesses,u can do it in the privacy of your own home,and then u will become a muslim,all u need is Allah as your witness.
I embraced Islam last year,all praises and thanks to Allah for guiding me,and when i had decided that i wanted to become muslim,i decided that i would have to set a date for taking my shahada,as i wanted to make sure i had learnt the prayer properly,and prepared myself for becoming muslim,and changing my lifestyle,i now know that it was only shaytaan(satan)trying to make me find excuses as to delay the shahada,as like it has already been said,shaytaan is going to the fire and he wants to take us all with him(i seek refuge in Allah),basically i ended up taking my shahada alot earlier than i had planned,one day when i wasnt expecting to do it,and the person i announced my shahada in front of just told me basically the same thing,about us not knowing when we are going to die,and this is the first step(the shahada)we should take,learning the prayer comes after it,Allah knows
our intentions.And Allah is the best of planners.
By the way do u live in the United Kingdom?if u do,i know quite a few sisters around the UK,so i may know someone in your town and could therefore direct u to a masjid that is following the Quran and Sunnah and the way of the earlier muslims.
I ask Allah to make your heart strong,and i ask him to protect u from the whisperings of shaytaan(the accursed one)and to make u one of the rightly guided,Ameen.
Take Care,may Allah make things easy for u.

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BarakAllaahu feek, Umm_khadijah!

Mary, as we've mentioned, to become a Muslim is easy. All you have to do is take a bath, and then say this phrase with belief and full conviction:

Ash-hadu an Laa ilaaha il-la llaah,  
wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan Rasoo-lu-llaah


(I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah (Alone), and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allaah)

It's that simple!

Don't worry about finding a mosque in order to do it. Don't worry about witnesses.
Neither of these are required.
Umm_khadijah's post is an excellent advice from a sister who was just in your shoes a little while ago.

If you were to die while outside the fold of Islaam, Mary, and refuge is sought with Allaah, then it's too late! The key to Paradise is this statement, and no other religion will be acceptable to Allaah on the Day that we are to be raised up and called to account, except Islaam.  The Hell-fire, Mary, is place of punishment and sorrow, a place in which there is no enjoyment or relief. If you're sure that Islaam is the truth, then say that wonderful statement that will change your life. Say the statement which will give you Paradise and save you from the Fire.

I was once in your situation, Mary. I was a non-Muslim who ran around for 6 months knowing that Islaam was the truth, but I made excuses and did what my desires told me to do. Not until later did I realize that I had been walking on a tightrope, for lack of a better example, over Hell. At any second I coulda' been hit by a bus or had an elevator fall on top of me, or trip and fall down a flight of stairs.....and I would have been in unimaginable loss. Al-hamdulillaah (all praise and thanks are due to Allaah), he spared me and I was able to accept Islaam. But what Allaah had written for me might not be the case for you. Only He knows when your time is gonna be up.

If you're sure, Mary, take the shahaadah. If you're not, then let us know what questions you have so that we can try our level best to clarify things for you.

If you see how many views these posts have gotten, you'll see how all of us are very excited for you. None of us want to rush you in to anything, but at the same time we can't wait for you to taste the sweetness of Islaam that we have, and we fear for your Hereafter.




Aboo Sufyaan al-Amreekee

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salaam to you Mary, I have jsut read with happiness in that you are indeed interested in becoming a Muslim. I have been a Muslim for almost 25years, alhamduLiLah.

As there hasn't been any posts by yourself in the past few days, I would like to ask how did things work out? Have you recired w/ ikhlas (sincerity) Kalimah Taybah or declasration of faith (in english)?

Look forward to hearing back from yourself, inshAllah.

Best regards

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barakallaahu feekum

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