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The attached file contains evidences, transcripts, scans and photos in exposition of this organisation. It also contains statements of the scholars, defence of Salafi Publications and clarfication of the doubts.

The Deviations Of The
"MARKAZ JAMIAT AHL-E-HADITH UK"
(Markaz Jam'iyyah Ahlul-Hadeeth UK)


Contents
Page 3 | Chapter 1 | JAM'IYYAH AHL-E-HADITH HEADQUARTERS, GREEN LANE MOSQUE, HOST THE 'RESPECT' SOCIALIST PARTY CANDIDATE, SALMA YA'QOOB

Page 5 |Chapter 2 | HEADS OF THE JAMıIYYAH AHLUL-HADITH UK DECLARE OPEN SUPPORT FOR THE SOCIALIST PARTY. THE PHOTO IN THE ATTACHED IMAGE IS THAT OF ABDUL-HADI AL-OMARI

Page 3 | Chapter 3 | SUHAYB HASAN IS UPON 'EUROPEAN COUNCIL FOR FATWA AND RESEARCH' ALONGSIDE PEOPLE OF INNOVATION AND HEADS OF DEVIATION

Page 8 | Chapter 4 | SUHAIB HASAN OF JAM'IYYAH AHLUL-HADITH ON STAGE CO-OPERATING WITH EXTREME SOOFEES & OTHERS FROM AHLUL-BID'AH! IN JUNE 2006

Page 10 | Chapter 5 | JAM'IYYAH HEAD CLAIMS THAT DEMOCRACY IS SUPPORTED BY THE SHAREEıAH

Page 13 | Chapter 6 | THE HEADS OF THE JAM'IYYAH CALL TO UNITY WITH THE DEVIATED GROUPS WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS

Page 15 | Chapter 7 | A JAM'IYYAH AHLUL-HADEETH PUBLICATION PRAISING SOME OF THE AHLUL-BID'AH AND PUTTING THEM ALONGSIDE THE IMAAMS OF SUNNAH

Page 17 | Chapter 9 | SUHAIB HASAN OF JAMIAT AHLE-HADITH UK JOINS CELEBRATION OF PROPHET'S BIRTHDAY!!

Page 20 | Chapter 10 | ABU USAMAH KHALIFAH ADH-DHAHABI & HIS SPEECH CONCERNING THE ISLAMIC GOVERNMENTS. HE IS AN OFFICIAL EMPLOYEE, A KEY LECTURER, A KHATEEB, & AN IMAAM OF THE 'MARKAZ JAMIAT AHL-E-HADITH UK' AT GREEN LANE MOSQUE

Page 23 | Chapter 11 | A KEY LECTURER FOR THE JAM'IYYAH AHLUL-HADITH CLAIMS NIQAAB IS ONLY CULTURAL!

Page 24 | Chapter 12 | THE SCHOLARS OF YASIR QADHI - A KEYNOTE SPEAKER FOR THE JAM'IYYAH AHLUL-HADITH

Page 25 | Chapter 13 | THE UNDENIABLE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE "GREEN LANE, MARKAZ JAM'IYYAH AHLUL-HADITH UK" AND YASIR QADHI AND TAWFIQUE CHOWDHURY

Page 26 | Chapter 14 |SUHAIB HASAN WRITES A PRAISEWORTHY RECOMMENDATION FOR A SOOFEE ASH'AREE HAMZA YUSUF AND HIS TRANSLATION AND EXPLANATION OF 'AL-AQEEDATUT-TAHAAWIYYAH'

Page 31 | Chapter 15 | THE ADMONITIONS & REFUTATIONS OF SHAIKH BADEE' UD-DEEN SHAAH AS-SINDEE AR-RAASHIDEE (rahimahullah) ON JAM'IYYAH AHLUL-HADITH

Page 35 | Chapter 16 | SHAIKH 'UBAID WARNS AGAINST CO-OPERATION WITH MARKAZ JAM'IYAH AHLUL-HADITH UK AND ITS HEAD ABDUL-HADI OMARI

Page 36 | Chapter 17 | ADVICE AND REBUKE OVER YEARS FROM ALL QUARTERS

Page 37 | Chapter 18 | REMOVING THE DOUBTS AND FALSE ATTACKS AGAINST SALAFI PUBLICATIONS | THE NOBLE SHAIKH & SCHOLAR OF KUWAIT ANSWERS: DO SALAFI PUBLICATIONS HAVE HIZBIYYAH?

Page 43 | Chapter 19 | THE SHAIKH & 'ALLAAMAH 'UBAID AL-JAABIREE: THE RECENT ATTACKS UPON SALAFI PUBLICATIONS & THE STATEMENTS OF SHAIKH WASI'ULLAAH

Page 45 | Chapter 20 |THE SHAIKH & 'ALLAAMAH 'UBAID AL-JAABIREE: REGARDING THOSE WHO ENCOURAGE ABANDONING SALAFI PUBLICATIONS & THEIR WEBSITES

Page 49 | Chapter 21 | A REPLY TO THE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST SALAFI PUBLICATIONS AND THOSE WHO NARRATED FALSEHOOD TO SHAIKH WASIıULLAAH ABBAAS


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APPENDIX 1

USAMAH HASAN | THE OPEN CALLER TO MISGUIDANCE

Who is he?
- The son of Suhaib Hasan
- A khateeb, an Imaam of the "Jamiat Ahlel-Hadith" Mosque in Leyton (Masjid at-Tawhid)
- A signatory to the Yasir Qadhi-Hamza Yusuf pledge


1. USAMAH HASAN | ON MUSIC

quote:
"On music: my view is that of Sheikh Abdullah al-Judai, whose book on the subject is the best one around. It is close to the view of Sh. Qaradawi, and classically that of Ibn Khaldun, al-Jahiz, Isbahani and others. 'Music is haram' is a statement that is neither accurate nor authentic nor helpful in a music-infested society, especially since the Prophet ((sallallaahu alayhi wasallam)) commanded the use of music at certain occasions. Feel free to disagree on this matter, but it is not a matter of wala' and bara', and we have to learn some basic adab al-khilaf with people who have different ijtihad."


>>RULINGS OF THE FOUR IMAAMS ON MUSIC<<

Maybe Usamah should also reveal to us the fact that his 'Shaikh' Abdullah a-Judai also holds permissible entering one's wife through her anus, smoking and other evil matters.

[url=http://www.fatwaislam.com/fis/index.cfm?scn=fd&ID=502]>>FATWA OF THE PERMANENT COMMITTEE REGARDING MUSIC<<[/url]

2. USAMAH HASAN | ON THE MUSLIM WOMAN'S VEIL

quote:
"Ditto on the headscarf (khimar, not hijab, a much-misused term) and niqab, etc. Whether you like it or not, millions of devout Muslim women who are pious, do their salat, siyam, charity and much else, follow what I call the 'rational' view based on holistic maqasid that the Qur'an tells them to dress modestly. Eg the ayah mentioning the headscarf tells them to cover their bosoms, not their heads. Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan popularised this view in pre-partition India, and it is followed by millions of devout, intelligent Muslims in Pakistan, where I lived for a year and saw it first hand. It is also followed by Javed Iqbal, son of Allama Iqbal, who has the ajr insha'Allah of the establishment of Pakistan and Bangladesh and all the good that's come from it. This view is also that of Zaki Badawi and many other Azhari 'ulama, including I'm told Sh. Muhammad al-Ghazzali and Sh. Sha'rawi, although I have not been able to verify the last two. Whether you like it or not, you have to acknowledge it, especially when explaining it to a non-Muslim audience, as I was doing on BBC HardTalk, since they can easily see that many Muslim women don't wear a khimar or niqab. Again, it's a difference of ijtihad. Even classically, there was a tiny minority of fuqaha who said that a woman's head was not 'awrah - this is mentioned by Ibn Bayyah and also occurs in the Tafsir of Ibn 'Ashur. The point is again, it is not a wala' and bara' issue."


Note the points of reference for Usamah Hasan - people of deviation: Zaki Badawi; Muhammad al-Ghazzali; [url=http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?forum=9&topic=6525]Sha'rawi[/url]; [url=http://spubs.com/sps/sp.cfm?secID=NDV&subsecID=NDV16&loadpage=displaysubsection.cfm]Yusuf al-Qardawi[/url]; Ibn Bayyah (another signatory of the Yasir Qadhi-Hamza Yusuf pleadge)

[url=http://www.troid.org/sisters/hijaab/2.html]>>CLICK HERE FOR RULINGS ON THE HIJAAB & VEILING<<[/url]

3. USAMAH HASAN | ON ED HUSAIN & MAAJID NAWAAZ

quote:
"Ed Husain and Maajid Nawaz are NOT 'enemies of Islam and Muslims,' as one brother alleged, another lie and slander. Even Ed's critics admit that he does a good job of defending Islam and Muslims on the media. Listen to his debate online with the vicious ex-Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali, where he defends Islam against her ridiculous attacks. This debate was chaired by the neo-con Douglas Murray, attended by 200 people. Do you think Allah helped Ed, or not, to win that debate? Maajid spent four years in prison in Egypt, including being tortured. He knows what he's doing. But it's easy being an armchair critic, isn't it?"


SOME STATEMENTS OF ED HUSAIN:

quote:
"...and therefore Muslims should go far as to say that the other modes of reaching the noble aims of the Shari'ah in other words protection of life, property, reason, religion and so on, then why do we need that barbaric, inhumane and outdated mode of stoning and flogging"
(Ed Husain on the Today Programme 28/11/07)


quote:
"I don't want Camilla's generation to suffer the indignities of the scripturally justified attitudes of domestic violence, or her testimony to be worth half that of a Muslim man in court, or her legal inheritance in a Muslim country to be one-third of a man's"
(Ed Husain in his article "The Gender Agenda" 23/10/07)


quote:
"Just as in Leviticus we find references to stoning sinners, in Muslim scripture there are some unpalatable references"
(Ed Husain in his article "There is more to Islam than a Teddy" 2/12/07)


quote:
"Religions are not for governments or states,they are for individuals. The state can assist individuals' religious responsibilites, but governments cannot, should not, profess faith"


SOME STATEMENTS OF MAAJID NAWAZ

quote:
"Islamism is an ideology that believes sovereignty belongs to God, that legislation belongs to God - Those notions are alien to Islam"

"I dont think that in the realm of politics, we should be defining our political policies using scripture, because it is unhelpful"

"I dont think God revealed Islam to tell me how to run a state"
(Maajid in his talk on the citycircle forum entitled "In and out of Islamism")


DECEPTION OF USAMAH HASAN | USING DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AS A PROOF

It is clear from the comments of Usamah Hasan that he seeks to use differing amongst the 'people of knowledge' as an excuse to spread his deviation and misguidance. The initial point to make is that the people he regards as scholars, many of them are deviated innovators such as Sha'raawee and al-Qardaawee. So no attention should be given to their opinion in the first place. Nevertheless, we ask the reader to make note of the following:

i. We must recognise that that there is no individual in this Ummah, other than the Messenger of Allaah, 'alayhi salaatu was-salaam, that can encompass every aspect of completion in every field of knowledge that Allaah has revealed. Bearing this in mind, any individual can err. The less knowledge you have of the legislation, the more you err. The more shar'ee knowledge you have, the less you err. The Messenger of Allaah, 'alayhi salaatu was-salaam, mentioned in a hadeeth,

quote:
"When a judge makes a judgement and he makes ijtihaad and he is correct, he gets two rewards. And if he judges and is incorrect, he receives a single reward" (Hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah reported by Bukhaaree and Muslim).


And this reward is for the 'ulemah of Ahlus-Sunnah, not the innovators who utilise kalaam, philosophy and rhetoric to come to their position.

ii. As for the statement, "Every Mujtahid is correct" (Kullu mujtahid museeb), then the Qaadi Abu Tayyib At-Tabaree said: "[as for the statement], 'every mujtahid is correct', then this is madhhab of the mu'tazilah of Basrah, and they are the root of this bid'ah." (see Bahrul-Muheet 6/243)

Aboo Ishaaq Ibraaheem ibn Muhammad Al-Isfiraayeenee, the mujtahid imaam, the Shaafi'ee 'Allaamah, of the 4th-5th century, said:

ııııı ııı ıı ııııı ıııı ıııı ııııı ııııı ııııı
"The saying that every mujtahid is correct, it is sophistry (denial of reality) from its beginning, and zandaqah (hypocrisy/disbelief) to its end." [Siyaru A'laam An-Nubalaa', Risaalah, 11th printing, 1417]

iii. The truth is one as Imaam Maalik stated with regard to the Sahaabah, radhi Allaahu 'anhum: "There is not in the differing of the Sahaabah an allowance/excuse (for others). Indeed there is only that which is wrong or right" (Jaami' Bayaanil-'Ilm wal-Fadlihi). And we have been ordered with that which is right and correct. And this is in agreement with the statement of Ibn Abbaas, radhi Allaahu 'anhu, said: "I say: 'The Messenger said' and you say: '[But] Abu Bakr and Umar said'!"

iv. Differring of the scholars is not a proof. Al-Haafidh Abu 'Umar Ibn Abdil-Barr said: "Difference of opinion is not a proof with a single one of the fuqahaa of the Ummah, except for the one who has no insight and possesses no knowledge - and he has no proof for his speech." (Jaami' Bayaanil-'Ilm).

So it is indeed the case that Usamah Hasan "has no insight and possesses no knowledge - and he has no proof for his speech."

v. Clarifying the errors is an obligation. Al-Haafidh Ibn Rajab, rahimahullaah, said: "And from the headings of naseehah to Allaah, the Most High, and His Book and His Messenger, and this is particular to the Scholars, to refute the deviations from the Book and Sunnah... And likewise to refute the weak statements from the slips of the scholars and to make clear the proofs of the Book and Sunnah." (Jaami' ul-'Uloom wal-Hikam, abridged)

vi. Excusing Deviation and Bid'ah is not an option if one knows. Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (d. 728H) said: "And another group, [then] they do not know the 'aqeedah of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah as is obligated, or they know a part of it and are ignorant regarding a part of it, and that which they know, they conceal and do not explain it to the people, and they do not forbid the bid'ah and they do not censure Ahlul-Bid'ah nor punish or subdue them. Rather they may even have disparaging remarks with respect to the Sunnah and the foundations of the Deen, not distinguishing between the speech of Ahlus-Sunnah and that of Ahlul-Bid'ah wal-Furqah, Or they accept the different madhhabs of bid'ah just as the 'ulemah excuse each other in the issues of ijtihaad in which there is [genuine] difference. And this is the condition of many of the murji'ah, and some of the Thinkers, the Soofees and the Philosophers" (Majmoo' al-Fataawa Vol 12, slightly abridged).

As can be seen, that if a person knows the reality of an issue, then he is not excused thereafter in supporting that which is opposition to the Sunnah after the matter is made clear from the texts of the Book and Sunnah upon the Manhaj of the Salaf. As for the one who does not know, then he is informed so that he takes the correct position against those who oppose Ahlus-Sunnah and its principles and fundamentals.

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SHAMEFUL DOUBLE STANDARDS & IGNORANCE

     It is shameful that websites set up and using the name of 'Madeenah', till this day defend this Jam'iyyah Ahlul-Hadith UK, and send out email shots to thousands advertising their events - Yet they continue to leave posts attacking Salafi Publications on their site, without evidence!
  
     The Shaikh and Allaamah Ubaid al-Jaabiree, may Allaah preserve him, was right when he stated, "And here, may Allaah bless you, I note regarding my saying, 'Some of them are from the Islamic University of Madeenah', that it is not permissible that it be understood from this that the University is responsible for them. These actions of theirs are from themselves, and the University is not responsible for the behaviour of individuals or groups from amongst its students."

     They do not realise that excusing deviation and bid'ah is not an option if one knows and is able. Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (d. 728H) said: "And another group, [then] they do not know the 'aqeedah of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah as is obligated, or they know a part of it and are ignorant regarding a part of it, and that which they know, they conceal and do not explain it to the people, and they do not forbid the bid'ah and they do not censure Ahlul-Bid'ah nor punish or subdue them.
     Rather they may even have disparaging remarks with respect to the Sunnah and the foundations of the Deen, not distinguishing between the speech of Ahlus-Sunnah and that of Ahlul-Bid'ah wal-Furqah. Or they accept the different madhhabs of bid'ah just as the 'ulemah excuse each other in the issues of ijtihaad in which there is [genuine] difference. And this is the condition of many of the murji'ah, and some of the Thinkers, the Soofees and the Philosophers" (Majmoo' al-Fataawa Vol 12, slightly abridged).

     So instead of aiding their brothers and aiding the Sunnah, and exposing the modernist, rationalist ideology of the people who call to misguidance, they conceal and do not explain it to the people. They add to that calamity by attacking those people who clarify and explain the truth and forbid the bid'ah and forbid misguidance - ignoring the fundamental errors of the Jami'yyah and seeking out whatever they can to expose Salafi Publications. Indeed they even regard the calamatous errors of the Jam'iyyah as the 'ulemah excuse each other in the issues of ijtihaad in which there is genuine difference!

    And their answer, once cornered with the gravity of errors of the 'Jam'iyyah Ahlul-Hadith UK', is, "Why do you not advise them? They are your brothers!" - Allaahu akbar! Firstly: What do they think the scholars, the great and the good of them, have been doing for the last 15 years? Indeed, even this refutation is an advice for the Jam'iyyah to return and repent. Secondly: We say to them: Why did you not advise your brothers at Maktabah Salafiyyah before slandering them and inventing falsehood about them and then relaying that to others without proof? These are the shameful double-standards of these people in defence of the Jam'iyyah. So, O reader, do not be deceieved by them, may Allaah protect you.

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Bismillaahirrahmaanirraheem,

This is a link to the original PDF document refuting the Ahl-e-Hadees:

http://www.box.net/shared/idpnpov1ag

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As salaamu 'alaykum,

I have a question related to the manhaj and fiqh of maintaining websites.

Is it permissible for a website which claims to be following the manhaj of Ahlul Hadeeth to give the links to the websites of deviants like al-Munajjid and refuted individuals like [url=http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=5611]Dr. Zakir Naik[/url], [url=http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=8572]Yusuf Estes[/url] and others and then give a disclaimer which says: "The above links are external websites, outside of the control of Green Lane Masjid. We cannot be responsible for the content or views expressed on these websites."

Isn't it more prudent that a website which claims to follow manhaj of Ahlul Hadeeth replaces these links with links to websites of Ulemah of ahlul Hadeeth and known Students of Knowledge and Duaat so that there is co-operation amongst the Ahlul Hadeeth? Shouldn't they link to alifta.com, rabee.net, etc.?

Who will be responsible if a common Salafee or a new Salafee visits their website and then clicks these links considering them to be good websites and then deviates from the way of the Salaf? Is this disclaimer sufficient? Shouldn't we not give any avenue to the Shaitaan to try and deviate the youth from the Sunnah?

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Allamah Ubayd al-Jabiri hafidhahullah declares Jamiat Ahlul Hadeeth in Birmingham to be not upon the Sunnah [url=http://www.miraath.net/index.php?page=lecture&action=download&file=mp3&lec=76]here[/url] and calls it a ladder for the Qutubiyyah & other misguided groups. He further calls Muslims to not co-operate with it at all.

This particular Q&A (Arabic with English translation by Abdulilah Lahmami) starts at time 30:45.

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quote:

We cannot be responsible for the content or views expressed on these websites.


Is this a promise they (Green Lane Masjid) have with the Lord of all that exists, extending to the Day of Judgment?

Perhaps they did not produce the "content", but they are certainly responsible for directing others to it.

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http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=6672&CFID=41308752&CFTOKEN=43820752
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Shaykh Ibn Baaz (rahimahullaah) stated in a fatwa: "So the speech of so-and-so is accepted not because it came from so-and-so, but rather because it is in accordance to the truth. And the speech of such-and-such is not rejected [merely] because it came from such-and-such, but rather because it opposes the truth."







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