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A Series of Proofs and Articles Showing
Fundamental Errors of
"Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK"
with its roots in Pakistan & India


Many of these errors are in relation to the Salafi Manhaj as you will see. The noble Scholar Shaykh Badi'ud-Deen Shaah As-Sindee (rahimahullaah) was amongst the first scholars to speak against the errors of this organisation in the UK. After him the Muhaddith and 'Aalim Muqbil bin Haadee spoke against one of its leaders, Suhaib Hasan, and the group itself (recording below). So please read this thread from the viewpoint of the evidences provided - and knowing that the 'ulemah have spoken regarding this group.

Shaykh Ibn Baaz (rahimahullaah) stated in a fatwa: "So the speech of so-and-so is accepted not because it came from so-and-so, but rather because it is in accordance to the truth. And the speech of such-and-such is not rejected [merely] because it came from such-and-such, but rather because it opposes the truth."


All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATION PART 1
Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK Support Democratic Elections And Attribute It To Islaam


The "Head" Of Markaz Jamiat Ahle-Hadith, Abdul-Hadi Umari, Gives Fatwa That Democratic Elections Are Supported By The Sharee'ah & One Is Sinful If He Does Not Vote, Thereby Someone Corrupt Is Elected!!

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All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATIONS PART 2
Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK DEMAND Democracy Be Restored In Algeria.
They Demand FIS, Islamic Salvation Front (Takfeeree Algerian Group) To Be Given Authority

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DEVIATIONS PART 3
Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK Invite Heads Of Innovated Groups To Deliver Lectures At Their 16th Annual Conference.


From Those Invited:
1. Head Of Islamic Foundation - Followers Of Abul-Aala Mawdoodee.
2. SM Darsh - Soofee, Ash'aree - Islamic Sharee'ah Council.
And others...

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All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATIONS PART 4
"Head/Ameer" Of Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK Praises & Exalts The Knowledge Of:
(i). Founder Of The Brelewee Soofee Cult.
(ii). Syed Abul-Aala Mawdoodee
(iii). Scholar Of The Deobandee Hanafee Deviant Sect.


The link below is to an Urdu lecture that Abdul-Hadee Al-Umaree (Ameer of the 'Jamiat') delivered on a Radio Station in Birmingham, UK, in the month of Ramadaan. This program reaches out to tens and thousands of Muslims! He states that Ahmad Ridhaa Brelewee (the one who called openly to major Shirk and major Kufr), Shabeer Ahmad Uthmaanee Ad-Deobandee, Syed Abul-Aala Mawdoodee are great scholars who have provided a great service to Islaam - he praises them over and over again, to the point of exageration! Not even mentioning a single point of criticism of them or their sects! He does not once mention Shaykh Ibn Baaz, Shaykh Al-Albaanee, Ibn Al-Uthaymeen or the scholars of this time.

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http://www.salafitalk.net/st/uploads/AbdulHadiPraisingInnovatorsMP3a.mp3

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All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATIONS PART 5
Suhayb Hasan Of Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK Attacks The Scholars Of Salafiyyah And Shaykh Rabee' In Specific.


The link below is to an English lecture that was delivered by Suhayb Hasan in which he vehemently attacks Shaykh Rabee' Bin Haadee. He states that people should listen to the refutations of the deviant Ash-Shaayijee against the noble Shaykh Rabee' Bin Haadee. He also contends the detailed refutations of Shaykh Rabee' upon Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul-Khaaliq of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa Turaath Al-Islaamee. He also claims to be a contemporary of Shaykh Rabee'!!

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http://www.salafitalk.net/st/uploads/SuhaibHasanAttacksScholarsMP3a.mp3

Suhayb Hasan has been refuted by Al-Allaamah Muqbil Bin Haadee al-Waadi'ee on tape. That tape is available from SalafiBookstore.com

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All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATIONS PART 6
Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK Clearly State That They Are With The Kuwaiti Jam'iyyah Ihyaa Turaath Al-Islaamee


In an interview with al-Furqaan Magazine (in Arabic), a head of the 'jamiat ahl-e-hadith' states that it is obligatory to co-operate with the Jam'iyyah Ihyaa Turaath Al-Islaamee.

This Ihyaa Turaath has been refutated in detail by many scholars including Shaykh Muqbil bin Haadee, Shaykh 'Ubayd Al-Jaabiree, Shaykh Ahmad Subaa'ee etc. These tapes are available from Salafi Publications.

Click BELOW to see the proof from Al-Furqaan Magazine of Kuwait:


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All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATIONS PART 7
Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK Visit House Of Lords (Parliament); Mixing With Shee'ah In The Name Of Politics; Taking Part In Open Photo Opportunities With Kufaar & Shee'ah


In the photos attached from a local Newspaper it is apparent that the heads of the 'Jamiat' are posing for photos along with some very unsavioury characters. From those present were representatives from the Raafidah Shi'ah seen alongside Abdul-Haadee sipping drinks. You can see in the attached newspaper clipping, Abdul-Haadee Umaree ("Ameer"), Sher Khaan Jameel (Imaam of Green Lane Mosque) and "Lord" Nadheer Ahmad (a regular speaker/lecturer at Ahl-e-Hadeeth Conferences) and others.

Click BELOW to see the proof from Newspaper cuttings:


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All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATIONS PART 8
"Lord" Ahmad Nadheer, A Regular Speaker At The Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadeeth Conferences & Seminars, Builds Bridges With Shee'ah & Visits Iran!


The following two magazine cuttings are shocking. If these incidents narrated were merely narrated to us, we would find them extremely difficult to believe. But see for yourselves!

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All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATIONS PART 8a
"Lord" Ahmad Nadheer In Iran


Click BELOW to see the proof from Newspaper cuttings:


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All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATIONS PART 9
Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith Publish Booklet Promoting Innovators & Callers To Deviation


A booklet was published in Urdu, English and Arabic and distributed freely in tens of thousands. This book mentions that from the "expert scholars and devoted reformers" are:

"Imaam" Muhammad Abduh
Muhammad Rasheed Ridaa
Hasan Al-Banna
Muhammad Al-Ghazaalee
Muhammad Mutawalli Sha'rawee

Laa hawla wala quwwata illa billaah!

Click BELOW to see the proof from the booklet in Arabic:


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Al-Imaam Ibn Baaz And The Major Scholars Advise Not To Co-operate With People Of Innovation In The U.K.

The Questioner Is Suhaib Hasan!!


'Shaikh' Suhaib Hasan Abdul-Ghaffaar, hafidhahullaah, head of the 'Noble Quraan Society' in London requested a verdict from the Committee of Major Scholars in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. So the reply was Fatwaa no. 18870 dated 11/6/1417H which corresponds to Wednesday the 23rd of October 1996, and it was signed by: (i) The noble Shaikh and prominent scholar Shaikh Abdul-Azeez ibn Abdullaah ibn Baaz and (ii) Shaikh Abdul-Azeez ibn Abdullaah Aal ash-Shaikh and (iii) Shaikh Saalih ibn Fawzaan al-Fawzaan and (iv) Shaikh Abdullaah ibn Abdur-Rahmaan al-Ghudayaan and (v) Shaikh Bakr ibn Abdullaah Aboo Zayd, hafizahumullaah wa Ayyadahum bifadlihi.



Question:"Based upon the Saying of Allaah, the Most High:

Help you one another in al-Birr and at-Taqwaa, but do not help one another in sin and transgression. Soorah al-Maaidah (5):2

It is said that it is obligatory to co-operate with all of the Islamic Jamaa'ahs, even though they differ with us with regard to methodologies and their way in giving dawah. So Jamaaatut-Tableegh has a way of giving dawah different to the way of the Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen and Hizbut-Tahreer and Jamaaatul-Jihaad and the Salafees. So how is this co-operation to be? And is it restricted for example to joint participation in conferences and gatherings? And what is to be the case when dawah is being given to non-Muslims, since confusion may be caused in the minds of new Muslims by the fact that each Jamaaah from these Jamaaahs will direct them to their own centres and their own scholars, which will confuse them. So how will it be possible to avert this matter?"


The Committee of Major Scholars replied:

"What is obligatory is to co-operate with the Jamaa'ah that proceeds upon the manhaj (methodology) of the Book and the Sunnah and that which the Salaf of the Ummah were upon in calling to the Tawheed of Allaah, the One free of all imperfections, and making worship purely and sincerely for Him, and warning against shirk and innovations and sins, and to advise the Jamaaahs that are contrary to that.

So if they return to what is correct, then they are to be co-operated with. But if they persist upon being contrary then it is obligatory to keep away from them and to adhere to the Book and the Sunnah.

Then co-operation with the Jamaaah that adheres to the manhaj (methodology) of the Book and the Sunnah will be upon everything that is good, righteousness and obedience to Allaah whether gatherings, conferences, lessons or lectures and in everything containing benefit for Islaam and the Muslims."

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All praise is due to Allaah, and peace and blessings of Allaah be upon the Messenger. To proceed:


DEVIATIONS PART 10
Suhaib Hasan Indicates That Dispute Between Shaykh Rabee' Bin Haadee and Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul-Khaaliq Of Ihyaa Turaath Is Based Upon Them Being Contemporaries.

DEVIATIONS PART 10a

Suhaib Hasan Claims That The Science Jarh wa Ta'deel (Disparaging & Praising) Is Not Applicable In Our Times.


Click BELOW to hear the proof:

http://www.salafiaudio.com/audio/AH_No_JarhWaTadeel.mp3



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Ash-Shaykh Al-Allaamah Al-Muhaddith
Muqbil Bin Haadee Al-Waadi'ee
(rahimahullaah)

Condemns Taking Part In Political Democratic Elections


Question: Are Democratic Elections from the affairs of ijtihaad for which there is no textual proof? And is the one who calls to Democratic Elections regarded as being astray or being sinful?


Answer: The Shaykh begins by stating that the one who calls to entering into elections is regarded as astray and sinful..

Click below for full reply in 'Arabic:


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DEVIATION PART 11

Suhayb Hasan Invites The Deviated Hizbee Adnaan Ar'oor To His Masjid In London For An Intensive Islamic Course!!


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DEVIATION PART 12

Suhayb Hasan Delivers Lecture Alongside
The Well-Known Surooree/Qutubee Abu Muntasir.
Their Chosen Lecture Is: "UNITY" !!


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DEVIATION PART 13

Suhayb Hasan Invited to Deliver Lectures For Ikhwaanee Organisation Alongside Heads Of Deviation:

Raashid Ghanoushi
Dr. Jamaal Badawee
and many more...


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DEVIATION PART 14

Suhayb Hasan's Sharee'ah And Fatwa Council.
With him on the "Sharee'ah Council" we find Soofees, Ash'arees and Ikhwaanees.



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DEVIATION PART 15

Suhayb Hasan's "Sharee'ah Council" has upon it "Scholars" who represent the following Mosques and Sects:

1. Jamia Mosque & Islamic Centre, Birmingham
Soofees/Ikhwaanees

2. Islamic Centre, Didsbury, Manchester
Hamasee/Ikhwaanees

3. Islamic Center, Glasgow

4. Markazi Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith, UK
!!!

5. Jamia Masjid Hanafiya, Bradford.
Brelewees Soofees

6. UK Islamic Mission
The Jamaa'ah Of Mawdoodee

7. Da'watul-Islam, UK.

8. Muslim World League.

9. London Central Mosque & Islamic Cultural Centre.

10. Muslim Welfare House
Ikhwaanees

Then the statement of this so-called "Sharee'ah Council" goes on to say:

quote:
"The SCHOLARS representing these centres come from all MAJOR SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT among the Sunnis"


So according to Suhayb Hasan and this "Markazi Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith, UK", the Brelewee Soofees, Ikhwaanul-Muslimoon and the followers of Mawdoodee all are from Ahlus-Sunnah!!

Are these the people you want solving your marital and religious problems? Wallaahul-musta'aan!


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Ash-Shaykh Al-Allaamah
'Ubayd Al-Jaabiree
(From The Major Scholars Of The Ummah :: Madeenah)

Democracy And Voting In The West


December 2004 A beautiful answer detailing the innovation of democracy and voting. The Shaykh is asked concerning voting and elections in the lands of the West. The Shaykh counters the argument of those who call to elections.


Click below for full reply in English and 'Arabic:


>>>Shaykh Ubayd On Elections, Voting and Democracy For Muslims In The West<<<


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** A CLARIFICATION **

Dispelling A Doubt


Our rebuttal of the Jam'iyyah Ahl-e-Hadith in no way necessitates that anyone and everyone who attends the gatherings organised by Jam'iyyah Ahl-e-Hadith is tarnished with their errors. As is well known that Jam'iyyah Ahl-e-Hadith sometimes will invite scholars and mashayikh that can be benefitted from. We do NOT hold that those who benefit from their gatherings or everyone who works for them are to be labelled as "innovators" or "hizbees" or the likes of these weighty labels. It is well-known from the scholars that they do not make tabdee' or attribute hizbiyyah for these reasons - And the making of tabdee' of the people is for the Scholars upon clear evidences. And Allaah's aid is sought.


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DEVIATION PART 16

Suhayb Hasan
Upon "European Council For Fatwa And Research"
alongside:

Yusuf Al-Qardawi (President)

Rashid al-Ghanouchi
and many more from the various groups of Sufism, al-Ikhwaan al-Muslimoon, Deobandiyyah, etc...


On page 1 of "Fatwas Of European Council For Fatwa And Research", Islamic INC Publishing and Distribution, Egypt, it states:

"The inaugural meeting of the European Council for Fatwa and Research was held in London, UK on 21-22 Dhul Qi'da 1417AH (29-30 March 1997). The meeting was attended by more than 15 scholars who responded to the invitation of the 'Federation of Islamic Organisations in Europe'. This meeting saw the endorsement of the Draft Constitution of the ECFR."

On page 7, same book, it states that they have had 8 meetings till the date of publication:

"The Eighth Session, in Valencia, Spain between 26 Rabi' Thani to 1 Jumada Al-Awwal 1422 AH, 18-22 July 2001."


Click below for proofs in English and Arabic:


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