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bintadam
16-01-2010 @ 10:19 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Fathiya bint Adam (Cardiff, UK)
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Asalaamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh


I was recently informed that a person can fast on behalf of the deceased relative. The fast that I'm referring to is the voluntary fast and not the fast during the month of Ramadaan. I've only come across the continuous charity and supplication on behalf of them,as mentioned in the hadeeth of Abu Hurairah:
The messenger of Allah said "When a man dies, his deeds come to an end except for three: A continues charity, knowledge by which people derive benefit, pious son who prays for him."

Is that fast considered as one of the continuous charity as mentioned in hadeeth ?
Can someone please clarify and enlighten me on this issue. Barakaa Allahu feekum

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dadelboom
17-01-2010 @ 11:02 PM    Notify Admin about this post
no problem (netherlands)
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salamu alaikum


read the book advice to the woman by umm abdullah. this question was asked to her. end of the book u will find fatwas. fatwa number 17

according to her its a bid3a. u can only fast obligated fasting for the dead person when he still has some days to fullfill

she said in the book u can only give charity and suplicate. u can not pray vol. prayers (except for the janaza) or fast vol. or recite quran this is all bid3a.

i heard there is ikhtilaf about hajj and umrah. wallahua3lam.



ummmusa88
18-01-2010 @ 7:38 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Umm Musa bint Muhammad (New York)
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asalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

this will help you inshaAllah, taken from sh al albaani's silsilah
assaheeha, with the shaykh's commentary:

"As for your father, if he affirmed Tawheed and if you fasted and gave
charity on his behalf, then this would benefit him." Silsilah Saheehah
:484


The origin of this hadeeth is as follows: "al-Aas bin Wa'il took an oath in
the days of ignorance, before Islaam, that he would slaughter one hundred
camels. His son Hisham bin al-Aas slaughtered fifty camels on behalf of his
father.Umar asked the Prophet -sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam- about this.
And he said: (The above hadeeth)."

This hadeeth is clear evidence that the reward of giving charity and
fasting reaches the father, likewise the mother after their death.
If
they were Muslims, the reward reaches them for giving charity and fasting,
even without them bequeathing it.Since the son is a product from the work
of the parents. So this is included in the general saying of Allaah Ta'ala:

<< And that man can have nothing but of what he does (good or bad)>>

There is no need to specify this general meaning of the Ayaah with this
hadeeth. Likewise the other hadeeth which has the same meaning in this
subject, from what al-Majd Ibn Taymeeyah mentioned in his book 'al-Muntaqa'
like some of the people who have generalized the texts. Acknowledge that
all the Ahaadeeth that he mentioned regarding this subject are specific to
the parents of the son.As for using these Ahadeeth as evidences that the
reward reaches all dead people
, like al-Majd ibn Taymeeyah mentions as
a heading in his book, by saying: 'Chapter - Reaching close of the reward
gifted to the dead' then this is not correct, because this claim is more
general than the evidence provided.
There is no evidence which shows a
clear general proof, that the dead benefit from the general good actions
which are gifted to them from the living, except for those specific matters
which ash-Shawkaani mentions
in his book 'Nail Awwtaar' (4/78-80), and also this writer in his book
'Ahkaam al-Janaiz wa bida'iah'.From those things is doing Dua' for the dead
since it benefits them, if Allaah - Tabaraka wa Ta'ala - accepts it.

So, remember this, and it will save you from going beyond the limits or
falling short on this issue.The summary of this is that the son can give
charity, fast, perform Hajj and Umrah, and read Qur'aan on behalf of his
parents, since this is from their own actions, and he cannot do this for
other than his parents, except what has been specified with proof, of what
we have indicated before and Allaah knows best.






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