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14-01-2011 @ 12:24 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Zayd Abu Ubayd (Peqin,Albania)
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Hiding behind Al-Albaanee, Ibn Baaz, Ibn 'Uthaymeen?

In the Name of Allaah...

Something came to my mind about a question I was asked the other night about people who only mention references to the scholars of recent times, specifically: Al-Albaanee, Ibn Baaz, and Ibn 'Uthaymeen.

You may recall that I said that these are - of course - the greatest scholars of recent times, and we are happy to hear people mention them with goodness and attach themselves to them.

I also mentioned that some people claim an attachment to them and then contradict their teachings, and so a good and wise tactic to use in calling them to the Truth would be to mention to them what those scholars have said about that issue that they are mistaken in, so that they could accept the correction more easily.

And I alluded to the idea of those three - may Allaah have Mercy on them - recommending other scholars and warning against certain callers. And that could be a way of introducing them to or helping them establish contact with other noteworthy scholars who are still alive.

I'd like to mention a specific example of this, that is sadly too common to hear. People say, "I prefer the manhaj of Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen over the manhaj of Shaykh Rabee' al-Madkhalee..." Or they may say Shaykh Ibn Baaz or Shaykh Al-Albaanee in place of Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen, or all three of them!

Let's be perfectly clear on this issue - this is not the speech of the people of knowledge. All three of those great scholars were upon the same manhaj of Shaykh Rabee' ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee (may Allaah preserve him) - the manhaj of the Salaf. This is not merely a devoted student's opinion, rather, all three of those scholars have clear and specific praises of Shaykh Rabee', his teachings, his books, his recordings, and even his refutations.

As for the statements of taxi drivers and their students, or anonymous internet writers, that the manhaj of Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen was other than the manhaj of Shaykh Rabee', etc... then it is simply jahl murak-kab (compound ignorance), when a person hears a specific point of disagreement between two scholars, and assumes that it means that a major disagreement has taken place, and that they have parted ways and gone forth on two different paths!

As an extremely clear example, here are the words of Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen himself, about the visit of Shaykh Rabee' to his city (Unayzah) around the year 1421 shortly before the death of Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen:

...Our brother (Shaykh Rabee'), may Allaah grant us and him success, is upon Salafiyyah, the way of the Salaf. And I do not mean here that Salafiyyah is a hizb (party) which is set up to oppose the Muslims outside of it, but I mean by Salafiyyah, that he is upon the path of the Salaf in his Manhaj. Especially in the field of actualising Towheed and throwing aside what opposes this [manhaj].

The visit of our brother, Shaikh Rabee bin Haadee to this region, our city, Unayzah, no doubt will have a good effect, and it will also become clear to many of the people what used to be hidden from them due to the scare-mongering and rumour-mongering, and also letting loose the tongue [of discord].

You may access the original Arabic audio, transcription, and translation, including other helpful articles on the topic here:

So let those who insists that Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen was upon a different manhaj than Shaykh Rabee' repent from their audacious lie against Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen, and their oppression of Shaykh Rabee' as well.

I mention this illustration since it is something that affected a dear brother of mine, may Allaah guide me and him to what is correct. And it is generally relevant to the question I was asked, as people claim attachments to the likes of those great scholars, and may hide these kinds of sentiments, revealing them every now and then.

And it really really hurts to hear people slander a great man like Shaykh Rabee', a man of the Sunnah, a concerned advisor, patient, full of love for the Muslims and hope for the success of their da'wah, busy with knowledge day and night, reading, writing, researching, compiling, falling asleep on a thin mattress on the floor with a book on his chest and books all around him, critical of his own self and his own students, a brave and guided critic whose writings are blessed with academic strength and clarity, a gracious host, a father-figure to people all over the world, a man who cries when he hears about things that harm the image of our da'wah, a man who reads a book about the history of the rightous Salaf and the trials they faced and becomes engaged in the story and attached to it more devoutly than how common people watch an action movie!!

"The flesh of the scholars is poisonous! The way that Allaah exposes those who belittle them is well known! Those who unleash their tongues (with falsehood) against the scholars, Allaah shall cause them to suffer from the death of their hearts before their lives end!" (So let those who contradict his order be warned that a trial may befall them, or a painful punishment!)
(Words attributed to Ibn ęsaakir, quoted in An-Nawawee's Tibyaan)

I say this, while I praise no one above Allaah, al-'Alee al-Qadeer, and it is HE alone who is his Reckoner.

(And I do not endorse or encourage the blind following of Shaykh Rabee', or any other specific scholar.)

Moosaa Richardson
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16-01-2011 @ 7:30 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Aboe Roemaysae Ridouan ibn Bas (Dordrecht, the Netherlands)
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Baraka lahoe fiekom, this is something we see sadly enough time after time after time.

People act as if the era of 'Ullamaa has stopped after the death of Imaams like Ibn 'Othaimin, Ibn Baaz and al Albanie Rahiemmahoellaah.
But these 'Ullamaa praised other 'Ullamaa like Shaych Hamaad al Ansaarie, Shaych Moqbil, Shaych Mohammed Amaan al Djamie and our living 'Ullamaa.

Hizbiyyien in this time try to hide behind these 'Ullamaa but do this selectivally.

They oppose these 'Ullamaa Rahiemmahoemoellaah in their manhaadj and hide their clear praisings for 'Ullamaa like for Shaych Rabi', Shaych 'Obayd, Shaych an Nadjmie, Shaych as Soehaymie, Shaych Zayd, Shaych Mohammed bin Hadie and others!

On the other hand they hide the critics from our 'Ullamaa, living and deceased, on Hizbiyyien like 'Aroor, 'Abdel Khaaliq, Safaar, Salmaan and many others.
Our living 'Ullamaa are Ghoelaat, but when Al Albanie gives the same persons a djarh they dare not say this!!

They praise on the other hand Du'aat which oppose the Scholars in their manhaadj like Hoewaynie, Hassaan and other story tellers influenced by Qutb!!! But than they do not want to speak about manhaadj etc!

But as is said earlier:

This is not new. Have we forgotten what Safaar, Salmaan, Nasr al 'Omar and others did when Ahl al Medina destroyed them?
What Aboel Hassaan did when things got clear?

They invent new Qawaa'ied which have no bases and which they oppose themselves:

"We criticize but do not make djarh"  on Qutb, Mohammed Qutub, 'Aroor and others. But Shaych Rabi' is attacked without this qa'ieda....

"We criticize but do not destroy the person." this on Ikhwaan al Moeslimien, Tabligh and Qutub, Maghrawie and others.....But Shaych Rabi'and 'Ullamaa of Yemen and Shaych an Nadjmie......No than they try to destroy these 'Ullamaa for clearing the truth!!!

If anyone dares to read the critics of our 'Ullamaa on persons and groups, one can see that they are full of clear cut references and proofs.

This contrary to the critics of these Hizbiyyien.

May Allaah protect our 'Ullamaa.

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