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aboo.shaahir
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All praise and thanks are due to Allaah, we praise and give thanks to Him, we seek His aid and ask for His forgiveness. We seek Allaah's refuge from the evil of ourselves and from our evil actions. Whomsoever Allaah guides none can misguide him, and whomsover Allaah misguides none can guide him. I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except Allaah alone, having no partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) is His slave and Messenger.

To proceed:

In these times of fitan (i.e. the fitnah of Abul-Fitan al-Mubtabi) the protection of the dawah tu-salafiyyah is with those  entrusted with the affairs of the Deen (i.e. the kibaar ulama) and those who bring us their kalaam (i.e. Salafipublication, TROID, Daralhadeeth, etc.) These brothers should be commended for their efforts in trying to preserve this blessed dawah, wal hamdulilah! But with every good comes some bad, and in this case the bad are those who wear the cloak of salafiyyah, but in reality are at war with the salafees, subhan'allaah! The sadnees of this reality is becoming clearer and clearer, because their arrogance and kibr has allowed them to come out openly with their animosity! They've puffed up their chests as if they are bigger than the dawah tu-salafiyyah, and plot against the salafees. Case and point exists in Detroit, Michigan within QSS. Insha'allaah what will proceed will be sufficient proof that there is hizbiyyah within QSS.

I'd like to start off by using the hadeeth of Anas (radiyallaahu' anhu) who said that Allaah's Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallum) said;

"Help your brother whether he is an oppressor, or one who is oppressed." They said, "We will help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?"  He said: "Prevent him from it." (Reported by al-Bukhaaree, eng.trans.vol.3, pg.373)

Several months ago Abdul Mun'im (the chairman of QSS) sent an email DEMANDING that Masjid Khalid binWaalid (the somali hizbee masjid in Toronto) remove a audio taped lecture entitled 'Naseeha' by Abu Usaamah Aththabbi. Although the lecture was VERY general in regards to jarh wa ta'deel, the hizbees at this masjid was using it as daleel against the noble brothers at TROID. So in response to this email, KBW exposed that Abdul Mun'im had asked their help in 'curbing' the brothers at TROID. This is what was said in that email;

"Bro. Abdulmonem you hastily penned these words as a follow up of your threat and failed terribly to re-collect your thoughts that just a few weeks before the last QSS Knowledge Day Program at the Islamic Foundations in Scarborough that you actually did solicit Masjid Khalid Al-Walid's help in curbing the untamed brothers at TROID."

For the record, this email was made public and til this day Abul Mun'im has YET to free himself from these claims. The noble Shaykh Abdul Azeez ibn Abdullaah ibn Baaz said in a fatwaa that it is not permissible to work with the hizbees in the field of dawah, so how does Abdul Mun'im find it even remotely possible that it's ok to co-operate with the hizbees in waging war against the salafees? Was Abdul Mun'im ignorant of the fact that KBW is a hizbee masjid? Well, to put that notion to rest, here are some statements by Abdul Mun'im in the email that triggered KBW to expose him.

"There is a history of clashes between the brothers at KBW and the brothers at TROID. The Hizbiyoon (i.e. people involved in party partisanship) at KBW are trying to give the impression that Abu Usaamah, in a speech made at QSS, is in fact censuring TROID in particular. Rather, amongst the first people to be admonished with this tape are the Hizbiyoon-young or old- at KBW who pose as adherents to the Salafi methodology. "

and

"It should be borne in mind that in our efforts to warn against some mistakes that those who attribute themselves to As-Salafiyyah do, we will never insha-Allah act in a way that lets down or disgraces As-Salafiyyah or As-salafiyoon, let alone allowing the Hizbiyoon to use it as a weapon against the Salafi Dawah. "

and

"In closing we would like to advise our brothers at KBW mosque to uphold clearly to the way of the Salaf, and to do away with all forms of Hizbiyyah that is rampant in their Masjid. They should never allow the Hizbiyoon to run the affairs of the Masjid from behind the scenes. They should open their ears and hearts to the sincere Naseehah that was offered to them by the noble sheikh Usamah al-Qoosi, and by other sheikhs."

Is Abdul Mun'im's hatred for TROID so overwhelming that he would resort on calling the hizbees to wage war against salafees? Does he feel he's  above the dawah to even recognize that this is an oppression to salafees? Ya Abdul Mun'im! I refer you to the fatwaa of Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah ta'ala);

" And it is not for anyone to set up a person for the Ummah and call to his way and form alliance and enmity based upon that, except for the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi was -sallam). Nor is any speech set up for them based on which they form alliance and enmity except for the Speech of Allaah and that of His Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi was-sallaam) and that upon which the Ummah are agreed. Rather this is the practice of the People of Innovation who set up a person or a saying with which they cause splits in the Ummah forming alliance or enmity based upon that saying or ascription." (Majmoo'ul Fataawa 20/164 and Al-Fataawal-'Iraaqiyyah pg.100-101)

But Abdul Mun'im's deceit doesn't stop there. While he's plotting against the brothers at TROID, he approached our noble brother Maaz Qureshi at the QSS conference two years ago , after refusing the brothers from TROID to distribute free literature (some translations from the works of the Scholars), he tried to recruit Maaz to translate some works for QSS. One of these works were was a risaalah on manhaj by Abul-Fitan al-Mubtadi entitled 'Raf'ul-Hijaab 'anil-Farq bayna Da'wati Ahlis-Sunnah wa Da'wah Ahlul-Ahzaab'. So his goal was to lure Maaz away from the brothers at TROID and join QSS by translating works for them. This is the way of the hizbee to divide and conquer! This was translated to me by Maaz Qureshi and I was present at this conference when all this took place.

Another example of Abdul Mun'im's animosity towards the salafees is what was narrated to me by our noble brother Maaz Qureshi, which was narrated by Daawood Adeeb himself. Abdul Mun'im told Daawood Adeeb that his association with TROID was going to destroy him (Daawood) and that he (Daawood) was allowing the youth to lead him when it should be vice versa. Itaqillaah ya Abdul Mun'im! The salafee is the one who loves the haqq, whether it is for him, or against him, or against the ones he loves. The salafee is the one who accepts the haqq from whomever it comes from and does not say " I don't accept the haqq from fulaan because fulaan is a youth!" This kalaam of Abdul Mun'im is nothing but jahl and arrogance! There is no possible way that  alliance be other than for Allaah, His Messenger (sallaahu alayhi was-sallam) and the Believer, through correct aqeedah and firm manhaj. Other than this contradicts the saying of the Most Merciful;

"Verily, your Walee (Protector or Helper) is none other than Allaah, His Messenger, and the believers, -those who perform As-Salaat(Iqaamat-as-Salaat), and give Zakaat, and they are Raaki'oon( those who bow down or submit themselves with disobedience to Allaah in prayer)." (Soorah al-Maa'idah(5):55)

Abdul Mun'im I advise you to take heed to this statement:

"The Muslims have no need of any written policy, or sealed agreement, or another system ageed upon other than the Book and the Sunnah. it is not for any muslim to ally himself with group or organization and to form enemies upon that basis, or think that the truth is what his group holds and that other than that is futile."

It would have been better for you to steer our brother (Daawood Adeeb) away from TROID, if the brothers were upon misguidance and defenders of the deviants. But since this is not the case you have commited an oppression by backbiting them, and trying to steer others away from them. Rather you are the one who deserves to be backbitten, because of your hatred for the salafees!

Another case and point, is the oppression our noble brother Abul Hassan Maalik faced because he did not mention QSS and SSNA as salafee organizations in the west. On the Sabeel Mu'mineen site, he was slandered and abused. They had posts stating he should be beaten by a stick, calling him 'ahmaq', calling him a 'kid' and other evil remarks. All this because he had not mentioned these 2 organizations. It wasn't as if he had warned against them or spoken ill of them, but yet he was crucified on that site, wallahul musti'aan! There were members of QSS and SSNA defending these actions and thought these actions were justified. Zahid Rasheed said " Those who wrote those posts were trying to bring back the glory to QSS!" (This was narrated to me by Abu Hakeem Bilal Davis, Abul Hassan Maalik and others who were present). Another brother who does security for QSS was asked what he had thought about the posts on Sabeel and his response was "im more concerned about what brought those statements that brought on fulan...the statements of abul hassan" and "why didnt he mention QSS at all?" and "does he have a problem with QSS?". What kind of jahl is this? Since when has insulting a salafee brother for the sake of a hizb not frowned upon? Firstly, it was claimed on Sabeel Mu'mineen that Abul Hassan Maalik did not have a strong connection with Shaykh Muqbil (rahimahullaah), or that Shaykh Muqbil could not make time for Abul Hassan Maalik when the shaykh was in America, or something to this effect. In reality, the brothers at TROID have in their possession three different letters of tazkiyah by Shaykh Muqbil. The first one states generally that Abul Hassan Maalik is a student of Shayk Muqbil. The second one gives Abul Hassan Maalik the permission to teach all the books written by the shaykh. The third one is an ijaazah allowing Abul Hassan Maalik to relate ahadeeth from Shaykh Muqbil, with the isnaad leading back to Imaam ash-Shawkaanee, all the way back to the Prophet(sallallaahu alayhi was-sallaam). This tazkiyah is only given to a SERIOUS student of hadeeth, not any 'ahmaq' or 'kid'! Secondly, during a phone call to Shaykh Muqbil, whle he was in America, the shaykh said that "Abul Hassan Maalik was like a son to him", and this was witnessed by Mazz Qureshi who was on the third line. Lastly, Shaykh Muqbil advised the brothers in Philadelphia publicly to benefit from Abul Hassan Maalik on the tape entitled " Sticking to the Jamaa'ah and Warning Against Hizbiyyah". So why would these jahil individuals within QSS defend those ta'baan posts in Sabeel Mu'mineen against a brother like Abul Hassan Maalik? The reason being, these individuals are from their hizb or from their followers, which only solidifies the claim that there is some hizbiyyah amongst them!   If Shaykh Rabee was asked to name the kibaar ulamaa in Saudia Arabia, and he had not mentioned Shaykh Ubaid al-Jabiree, do you honestly think Shaykh Ubaid would refute Shaykh Rabee? Or if others dishonoured Shaykh Rabee because of this, do you think Shaykh Ubaid would not refute them? It's rather sad to see these individual within QSS take such a jahil position in regards to Abul Hassan Maalik and yet they were not so outspoken and bitter when Abu Usaamah ath-Thahabbi spoke ill of the Kingdom of Saudia Arabia or when it was made public what he had said about Shaykh Rabee! Now this is absurd and something ludicris! If you don't mention QSS' name at a conference you are verbally crucified, but if you're a member of QSS and make a surooree statement on the minbar or speak ill of the ulamaa,  QSS remains silent, subhan'allaah!

In closing I ask Abdul Mun'im to fear Allaah and stop waging war against the salafees. This manhaj is much bigger than any personality or hizb. And many before you have come along and have fallen. Remember the saying of Ibn Mas'ood (radiyallaahu' anhu) who said;

"The fortunate one is he who takes lesson from the (fate) of others." (Reported from him by Muslim (no.2645) [eng.trans. vol.4 pg.1392, no.6393]

Aboo Shaahir as-Salafee

This message was edited by aboo.shaahir on 9-28-02 @ 5:03 AM

abdulilah
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Inshaallaah the translation of what Sheikh Rabee' said regarding Abdulmun'im will be posted shortly.

Sheikh Rabee', the Imaam of Jarh wa Ta'deel, Sadaqa Al Albaani rahimahullah

aboo.shaahir
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This is the fatwaa given by the Lajna in regards to co-operating with the hizbees:

"Based upon the Saying of Allaah, the Most High:

Help you one another in al-Birr and at-Taqwaa, but do not help one another in sin and transgression. Soorah al-Maaidah (5):2

It is said that it is obligatory to co-operate with all of the Islamic Jamaaahs, even though they differ with us with regard to methodologies and their way in giving dawah. So Jamaaatut-Tableegh has a way of giving dawah different to the way of the Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen and Hizbut-Tahreer and Jamaaatul-Jihaad and the Salafees. So how is this co-operation to be? And is it restricted for example to joint participation in conferences and gatherings? And what is to be the case when dawah is being given to non-Muslims, since confusion may be caused in the minds of new Muslims by the fact that each Jamaaah from these Jamaaahs will direct them to their own centres and their own scholars, which will confuse them. So how will it be possible to avert this matter?"

The Committee of Major Scholars replied:

"What is obligatory is to co-operate with the Jamaaah that proceeds upon the manhaj (methodology) of the Book and the Sunnah and that which the Salaf of the Ummah were upon in calling to the Tawheed of Allaah, the One free of all imperfections, and making worship purely and sincerely for Him, and warning against shirk and innovations and sins, and to advise the Jamaaahs that are contrary to that.

So if they return to what is correct, then they are to be co-operated with. But if they persist upon being contrary then it is obligatory to keep away from them and to adhere to the Book and the Sunnah.

Then co-operation with the Jamaaah that adheres to the manhaj (methodology) of the Book and the Sunnah will be upon everything that is good, righteousness and obedience to Allaah whether gatherings, conferences, lessons or lectures and in everything containing benefit for Islaam and the Muslims."







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