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Umm.Layla
21-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Bismillah Ir-Rahman Ir-Raheem

As-salaamu Alaikum,

1. Is it permissable to make salat behind someone who you know is doing drugs? Others in the group are not aware of this, but I have seen and tried to give nasiha to the brother. I don't want to pray behind him, but I don't want to cause fitna within the brotherhood, because they would not understand why I don't want to pray behind the brother in question. How can I avoid fitnah?

2. My mother is a christian. She has done nothing to interfer or distract from me being Muslim. I have heard that I should not love her because she is not a muslim. That I should only honor her. Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) loved his uncle, although he never became a muslim. I am confused, please explain.

3. What is the chain of command for leading salat? The most knowledgeable (what if it is not the Imam), then who comes next and so on?

The sister would like answers to these questions, insha'allah.  

As-salaamu Alaikum
Umm Layla

Moosaa
23-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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"Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) loved his uncle, although he never became a muslim."

In his explanation of Kitaab At-Tawheed last year, Shaykh Rabee' stated that even thought the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) tried very hard to call his uncle Aboo Taalib, he DID NOT LOVE HIM.  

The shaykh then mentioned some of the aayaat about the prohibition of loving the kuffaar, I believe one of them was:

يَاأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَتَّخِذُوا ءَابَاءَكُمْ وَإِخْوَانَكُمْ أَوْلِيَاءَ إِنِ اسْتَحَبُّوا الْكُفْرَ عَلَى الْإِيمَانِ
( O you who believe!  Do not take your fathers or your brothers as friends if they have preferred kufr over eemaan ) [Tawbah:23]

So then a questioner asked about the aayah:

وَإِنَّكَ لاَ تَهْدِي مَنْ أَحْبَبْتَ
( And verily you do not guide whom you love )

Since it was revealed about Aboo Taalib specifically, does not this verse provide proof that the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) loved his uncle?

When I heard the question, I said, "Maa shaa' Allaah, he cornered the shaykh!"  BUT...

I will leave the issue for a day or so to let the members research this aayah and this section of Kitaab At-Tawheed.  If no one can guess what the shaykh's answer was, then I will post the answer, in shaa' Allaah...

Moosaa

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This message was edited by Moosaa on 3-23-03 @ 5:14 PM

Umm.Layla
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As-salaamu Alaikum,

May Allah reward both of you brothers for your quick responses.
Even though the sister is not yet a member of SalafiTalk, insha'allah
she can view the responses and I know she is appreciative.  

As-salaamu Alaikum
Umm Layla

This message was edited by Umm.Layla on 3-24-03 @ 3:20 AM

Moosaa
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The shaykh's response, may Allaah preserve him, was that the meaning of the aayah is: "You do not guide whom you love to guide, meaning that he (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) loved that Aboo Taalib be guided, not that he loved Aboo Taalib.

Moosaa

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Moosaa
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3. What is the chain of command for leading salat? The most knowledgeable (what if it is not the Imam), then who comes next and so on?

قال الإمام مسلم: حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ وَأَبُو سَعِيدٍ الْأَشَجُّ كِلَاهُمَا عَنْ أَبِي خَالِدٍ قَالَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو خَالِدٍ الْأَحْمَرُ عَنِ الْأَعْمَشِ عَنْ إِسْمَعِيلَ بْنِ رَجَاءٍ عَنْ أَوْسِ بْنِ ضَمْعَجٍ عَنْ أَبِي مَسْعُودٍ الْأَنْصَارِيِّ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَؤُمُّ الْقَوْمَ أَقْرَؤُهُمْ لِكِتَابِ اللَّهِ فَإِنْ كَانُوا فِي الْقِرَاءَةِ سَوَاءً فَأَعْلَمُهُمْ بِالسُّنَّةِ فَإِنْ كَانُوا فِي السُّنَّةِ سَوَاءً فَأَقْدَمُهُمْ هِجْرَةً فَإِنْ كَانُوا فِي الْهِجْرَةِ سَوَاءً فَأَقْدَمُهُمْ سِلْمًا وَلَا يَؤُمَّنَّ الرَّجُلُ الرَّجُلَ فِي سُلْطَانِهِ وَلَا يَقْعُدْ فِي بَيْتِهِ عَلَى تَكْرِمَتِهِ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِهِ قَالَ الْأَشَجُّ فِي رِوَايَتِهِ مَكَانَ سِلْمًا سِنًّا

Imaam Muslim said: Aboo Bakr ibn Abee Shaybah  and Aboo Sa'eed Al-Ashajj both narrated to us by way of Aboo Khaalid who said that Aboo Bakr narrated to him that Aboo Khaalid Al-Ahmar narrated on the authority of Al-A'mash, on the authority of Ismaa'eel ibn Rajaa', on the authority of Aws ibn Dham'aj, on the authority of Aboo Mas'ood Al-Ansaaree who said that the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) said:

"The one who is most read in the Book of Allaah leads the people.  If they are equal in their reading, then the most knowledgeable of them of the Sunnah (leads).  If they are equal in knowledge of the Sunnah, then the one who made hijrah first (leads).  If they are equal in hijrah, then the one who accepted Islaam first (leads).  And a man surely must not lead another in a place where he (the latter) has authority, nor can someone sit in his special seat in his house except with his permission."

Al-Ashajj said in his version, instead of the one who accepted Islaam first, "the oldest one".

[end of Imaam Muslim's words]

This is hadeeth #1530 (3/177-178 of Sharh An-Nawawee, Ma'rifah printing) from Saheeh Muslim.  The hadeeth is also found in At-Tirmithee, Aboo Daawood, An-Nasaa'ee, Ibn Maajah, and Ahmad.

It is from Imaam Muslim's (rahimahullaah) Chapter of "Who has the most right to lead the prayer?" in Kitaab Al-Masaajid.  The chapter contains other useful narrations on the subject, but this seems to be the most comprehensive of them.

Furthermore, we need to know that this hadeeth is not a proof for us to go to the masjid and undermine the current authority when the imaam goes to lead the prayer and say, "Is he the most read of us in the Qur'aan?"  These factors are weighed by those who are in a position to choose the leadership, not once it is already in place, since the same hadeeth refutes such an understanding:

وَلَا يَؤُمَّنَّ الرَّجُلُ الرَّجُلَ فِي سُلْطَانِهِ
"...and a man surely must not lead another in a place where he (the latter) has authority..."

(Notice the noon At-Tawkeed ath-thaqeelah!  ie. There is a linguistic device of affirmation used here to stress this point)

So if the imaam for the salaah has already been appointed, this part of the hadeeth applies.  And Allaah is Al-Muwaffiq.

Moosaa

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أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
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This message was edited by Moosaa on 3-25-03 @ 10:15 AM

Moosaa
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(The following post explains the one below it... This happens to me sometimes - My posts appear out of order, sorry!)

The scholars have two different understandings for the word:

أقرؤهم
"the most well read"

1) It means the one who memorized the most (this is the more apparent meaning based on the word itself)

2) It means the one who has the best understanding in the Deen

The latter seems more correct, as the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) appointed Abaa Bakr (radhiayllaahu 'anhu) to lead the salaah in his absence, while he told us to take the Qur'aan from 'Abdullaah ibn Mas'ood.  

Others said that, no, rather the first meaning is correct and the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) acted by the whole hadeeth.  Meaning that they both memorized the Qur'aan, and either Aboo Bakr was more knowledgeable of the Sunnah, or they were equal in that too, and Aboo Bakr had made hijrah with the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) and was the first of the men to believe in the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam).

An-Nawawee mentions some of this in his Sharh Muslim, as does Al-Mubaarakfooree in his explanation of At-Tirmithee.

And Allaah knows best.

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This message was edited by Moosaa on 3-25-03 @ 10:11 AM






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