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19-07-2003 @ 8:41 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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As Sallamualaykum,

I came across a book that i had read earlier from where my question arose. It still confuses me....

The book is Written by Abu Muhammed al- Hasan ibn 'Alee ibn Khalaf Al- Barbahaaree. The Imaam of Ahlus-sunnah wal-Jammah in his time,Imaam al-Barbaaharee(d.329H)
Translated by Abu Talhah Daawood ibn Ronald Burbank.
The title of the book is "Explanation of the Creed."

Point no. 122 says
" Means of earning which are clear to you to be correct are unrestricted, except for that which is found to be coorrupt. If it is corrupt, he takes from it what is sufficient to support himself and (he) does not say, 'I will abandon earning and take what people will give me.' This was not done by the companions, nor by the scholars up to this time of ours. 'Umar ibn al-Khattaab, radiallaahu 'anhu, said, "Earning of which a part is impure is better than having need of the people".

The footnote says this is reported by Wakee'ibn Jarrah, as occurs in Kanzul-Ummaal(4/122) and by ibn al- Jawzee in Manaaqib 'Umar (p.194)

Please explain

Please take the fact that i am aware of this following hadith,

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah, I heard Allah's Apostle, in the year of the Conquest of Mecca, saying, "Allah and His Apostle made illegal the trade of alcohol, dead animals, pigs and idols." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What about the fat of dead animals, for it was used for greasing the boats and the hides; and people use it for lights?" He said, "No, it is illegal." Allah's Apostle further said, "May Allah curse the Jews, for Allah made the fat (of animals) illegal for them, yet they melted the fat and sold it and ate its price." [Bukhari]

[Narrated by Ahmad and Abu Dawood, 3026; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami', no. 5107]
Again, When Allah forbids a thing he forbids its price as well.

JazakAllaah u khairun,

24-06-2005 @ 2:53 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullaah

Abu Talhah Daawood Burbank requested that the following message be posted on this thread:


"as-Salaamu `alaikum wa rahmatullaah,
then as a correction for what occurs in my translation of Imaam al-Barbahaaree's- rahimahullaah- 'Sharhus-Sunnah'

'' 'Umar ibn al-Khattaab,radiallaahu `anhu,said, <B>''Earning of which a part is impure is better than having need of the people.''</B>

Then the Arabic word which I translated as  'impure', i.e. 'ad-Daniyyah' ought to have been translated as 'obtained through menial labour'.

Shaikh Ahmad an- Najmee-hafizahullaah- said in his explanation (p.149):

<B>'' I say: the meaning of this is that you do not withold yourself from lawful earning, even if it involves something menial. Rather earning from menial work is better for you than begging from the people; and earnings which are menial are those matters which some people consider lowly, such as cupping/blood-letting,and being a barber, and selling items which are considered lowly -as long as they are not forbidden...''</B>

Also with regard to the phrase: ''if it is corrupt, he takes from it what is sufficient to support himself...'', then Shaikh Ahmad an-Najmee says (p.150):

<B>''Then the meaning of that is that you take from what is corrupt that which is a means to sustain your life in cases of dire necessity-like the (eating of) carrion/non-slaughtered meat;and whatever is besides that then it is not permissible for you to approach it.''</B>

I hope that by the permission of Allaah-the Most High- this clarifies any misunderstanding arising from my mistranslation, wallaahul-Musta'aan.

written by Aboo Talhah Daawood Burbank .''

end of quote from Aboo Talhah Daawood Burbank


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