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Topic: Shaykhs Abdul-Muhsin & Rabee'
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 AbuKhadeejahSP
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Alhamdulillaah was-salaatu was-salaamu 'alaa Rasoolillaah, wa ba'd:
Abul-Madhaffar As-Sam'aanee said:"And what indicates that Ahlul-Hadeeth are Ahlul-Haq (the people of truth): That if you look to their authored works, from the first of them to the last of them, from the earliest of them to the newest of them - along with their differing lands and times and the distances between their homes... You will find them upon a single way in their creed, traversing a single path... And their speech in it is one and their following it is one. You will not see between them differences nor separation in anything even if it is small... You you will find as if it is a single heart and upon a singular tongue - and is there more clearer evidence of the truth than this?!"
Qataadah said: "Ahlu Rahmatillaah are Ahlu Jamaa'ah, even if they are in different places and their physical bodies are separate. And Ahlu Ma'siyah (people of sins) are ahlu furqa (people of separation and discord) even if they are living in one land and their bodies are gathered in one place"
Wassallaam 'alaykum.
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| aboo.shaahir
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Al hamdulillahir rabbil aalameen was salaatu was salaamu 'ala nabeeyinaa Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een
Barakallaahu feekum ya Aba Khadeejah! This is another hole in the sinking ship of the supporters of Abul Fitan al-Mubtadi (i.e. QSS and their followers). When Abdul-Mun'im an-Nammaam, al-Kadhdhaab al-Hizbee posted that conservation between him and Shaykh Abdul Muhsin, they (QSS) thought this was a victory of sorts, because they had actually got something from one of the kibaar ulamaa that they can use in their defence. Now that ALL the scholars of Madinah are upon the same way in regards to Abul Fitan al-Mubtadi, who will they run to next?
Aboo Shaahir as-Salafee
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| abu.iyaad
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..--=ahamdulillaah was. salaatu was. salaamu `alaa rasoolillaah.=--..
wa. ba`ad
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As Salaamu `Alaykum
JazaakAllaahu Khayran for this news, I am sure there is much more to come, in light of these meetings between the Shaykhs. |
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.-=abu.iyaad=-.
--as.salafi--
This message was edited by abu.iyaad on 10-24-02 @ 2:41 PM
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| Moosaa
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Allaahu akbar!
May Allaah reward you Abaa Khadeejah!
And we never doubted our shaykh Abdul-Muhsin and we only saw him as a great 'aalim from our beloved 'ulamaa'! May Allaah preserve him.
Now the people of desires - will they now say that he is oppressing Abul-Hasan? Will they accuse him too of nationalism? Will they turn against him after just yesterday claiming he was the "only true 'aalim" of today?!
This is great news, maa shaa' Allaah.
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سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك
أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
أستغفرك وأتوب إليك
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| AbooTasneem
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Well , at least when they get ready to eat crow ,
I hope that it is halaal !
كن مستفيدا أو مفيدا
أو اسكت بحلم
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| abu.iyaad
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..--=ahamdulillaah was. salaatu was. salaamu `alaa rasoolillaah.=--..
wa. ba`ad
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.-=abu.iyaad=-.
--as.salafi--
This message was edited by abu.iyaad on 10-24-02 @ 7:47 PM
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| Abul.HasanMalik
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الحمد لله و الصلاة والسلام على رسول الله
This is tremendous news. We have witnessed the majnun bunch of Abul-Hasan Al-Ma'ribi seeking to hang on to anything that they thought would rescue them from the quicksand that they had most surely fell into. But as anyone knows the more you move in quicksand the faster you sink and drown.
As we witnessed from the supporters and students of Abul-Hasan Al-Ma'ribi in the States that when you would bring them the proofs and evidences they would say, "We are not blind followers", or as Abdul-Mun'im said as we have it on tape, "Sheikh Abdul-Muhsin said he is Salafi, or as Abu Usaamah said when he was cornered in the same taped meeting, "Does anyone on the phone know the position of Abu Abdir-Razzaaq Abdul-Muhsin Al-Abbaad Badr concerning Abul-Hasan?" This of course was after he origninally said on the Paltalk lectures that he was waiting for the Lajnah in Madinah and what they had to say. He advised the people to leave it to them. Then all of the scholars of the lajnah came out against Abul-Hasan Al-Ma'ribi. Did Abu Usaamah then unite with their word as he said he was waiting? No! Mere smoke and mirrors from Abu Usaamah.
So we have witnessed them strive to hang on to whatever they could. But now that Sheikh Abdul Muhsin has united his word with the Sheikh where do they go from here?
And I say by Allah they have to make a retraction and a repentance as clear as the sun of the sky. We do not accept from them that they "blend" back in. We advise the people to take a salafi stance from the majnun bunch of Abul-Hasan Al-Ma'ribi, and to treat them as their teacher is treated, with warning and abandonment, for verily this is the true advice of the truthful advisors.
This message was edited by Abul.HasanMalik on 10-25-02 @ 9:12 AM
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| AbuKhadeejahSP
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Alhamdulillaah was-salaatu was-salaamu 'alaa Rasoolillaah, wa ba'd:
Aslaamu alaykum.
I agree fully with the sentiments expressed by my noble Salafi brothers, may Allaah preserve them.
And as Maalik has said above: "they have to make a retraction and a repentance as clear as the sun of the sky".
Abul-Hasan Maalik says this because this was the way of the Salaf.
It reminds me of the saying of one of the Salaf, I think it was reported by Ibn Battah in his Al-Ibaanah from Ibnul-Mubaarak, rahimahullaah: The repentance of the one who turns to the Sunnah is not to be accepted until he defends the Sunnah as much as he defended the bid'ah.
So these people cannot just 'blend' in and pretend that nothing has happened or claim that they were 'just taking the position' of this Shaykh or that Shaykh. Rather, they waged a war upon the people of Sunnah and Salafiyyah. And this war was in reality upon the Scholars of the Sunnah as it was their daleel and mawaaqif the du'aat were taking; The likes of Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee, Shaykh Rabee', Shaykh Muhammad al-Bannah, Shaykh Muhammad al-Madkhalee and Shaykh Ubayd Al-Jaabiree.
Shaykh Faaleh Ibn Naafi' al-Harbee, hafidhahullaah, deserves a 'special mention' as he stood firm in the face of those who attacked him and spoke ill of him due to his adherence to and unrelenting handhold upon the truth. This is a man who truly took the advice of the Messenger, salallaahu 'alayhi wassalam, when he said: 'hold to it (the Sunnah of the Messenger and the Righteous Khulafah) with your molar teeth'.
These hizbees that carry diseases in their hearts tried everything to dishonour this noble, beloved Shaykh. He received an onslaught for nothing except for his love of the truth and his hatred of deviation. This Shaykh loves the Sunnah and its people.
So the mukhaalifeen phoned here and there to get the Shaykh discredited. They spread rumours about him and cursed him to lower his level in the eyes of the general people. And all they were doing in reality, and Allaah knows best, was gathering evil deeds for themselves to face Allaah with on the Day of Judgement.
One such ruwaybid in Birmingham (yes we still have some here) went exclaiming: Who's Shaykh Faaleh?! I've never heard of him before! Have you heard his name before this fitnah?! Who says he's from the major scholars?!
Yaa jaahil! Just because your heart has been blinded to the people of fadl and excellence does not mean that their fadl and excellence is decreased any by your ignorance! Rather your foolish speech has only lowered yourself and your own honour in the eyes of the people of Sunnah and the Righteous believers.
Each and every one of them should make tawbah and apologise to this beloved Shaykh, and to the others they have belittled, backbitten and lied upon. Write to them, visit them and beg their forgiveness. Their flesh was poisonous for one who has backbitten them.
The scholars are the Awliyaah of Allaah, the Party of Allaah, the Inheritors of the Prophet, the Firqatun-Naajiyah, the Aided Group and those whom the even the fishes in depths of the ocean seek forgiveness for. So if you find a person loving Rabee' Ibn Haadee, Saaleh al-Fawzaan, Faaleh al-Harbee, Ubayd al-Jaabiree, Muhammad al-Bannah, Muhammad bin Haadee, Ahmad an-Najmee, Zayd Al-Madkhalee, then know he is a person of Sunnah. If you find a person belittling or speaking ill of a single one of them, know that he is a writched innovator, an evil-doer and one who is brankrupt!
Then those who spoke ill of the Salafiyyoon should seek forgiveness from those whom they have harmed from the du'aat and the people of Sunnah in the West.
Then they must defend the Sunnah and its people, beginning with scholars and then their allies from the students of knowledge, the du'aat in the West. Defend them like you defended the Mubtadi' from Ma'rab and his false principles. Defend them with the same vigour you defended Ma'rabi and defend them with the same vigour you attacked them. Indeed it is just as Imaam Ibnul-Mubaarak stated above.
Wallaahu a'lam. Wasallaam 'alaykum wa rahmatullaah.
This message was edited by AbuKhadeejahSP on 10-24-02 @ 9:34 PM
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| aboo.shaahir
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Al hamdulillahir rabbil aalameen was salaatu was salaamu 'ala nabeeyinaa Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een
Barakallaahu feekum ya Aba Khadeejah and Abu Junaide for bringing us the inside scoop to these meetings that have taken place in the Mamlaka. The speech of Abul-Fitan al-Mubtadi is dispicable and reminds me of the speech of Adnaan Ar'oor when he said that he's in no need of any taskiyah from Shaykh Uthaymeen (rahimahullah ta'ala) and those who spoke against him, rather they are in need of a taskiyah from him, because they are under his feet (something of this nature). The unfortunate thing about this is that the 'lawyers' of Abul Fitan al-Mubtadi will say that their 'client' has all right to feel this way because he's being oppressed! Which will only prove that they are no different than their 'client' because they are not searching for the haqq! May Allaah destroy their evil plottings!!
Aboo Shaahir as-Salafee
This message was edited by aboo.shaahir on 11-2-02 @ 1:42 PM
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| abdulilah
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Sheikh Muhammad al Madhkhalee was here a while back when he refuted Abul Hasan mashaallaah and he said that the followers of Abul Hasan will goto China to see if there are any scholars to defend Abul Hasan.
Also his errors will continue to be refuted even if he repents and this is the way of Ahlu sunnah
Even though Abul Hasan al Asha'aree repented still his original aqeedah of making false ta'weel of Allaah's names and attributes continue to be refuted until the command of Allaah comes and the Ahlu Sunnah being upon the haq.
التراجع إلى الحق فضيلة
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