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18-08-2009 @ 10:26 PM    Notify Admin about this post
unspecified Anass bin Idriss (The Netherlands)
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Assalamou 'alaikoum,

I'm searching for information about this man and his followers, and their misguided claims. A lot of people attend their lectures here in The Netherlands these days, and they misguide a lot of people who start to practice islam. I searched on the forum but could only find 2 or 3 topics with some basic info. I'm looking for specific info about there deviations.


19-08-2009 @ 5:32 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Saqib Punjaabi (from Yorkshire )
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As-Salaamu AlaiKum,

Akhi, Tahir ul qadri is a Brailvi/Brailwi Sufi.

If you search for this, then inshallah there will be more information that you can find.

As for Tahir ul-Qadri... then the term "Qadri" is an ascription to a Major Sufi Order (Sufi Tariqa).

Amongst the Brailwi belief is that the Prophet Muhammad (salallhu alaihi wa sallam) is alive and everywhere (they say "Haa zir, Naa zir")... and that the Prophet knows the Unseen (ilm al-Ghaib).
Practising Brailwis also believe that the Prophet (alaihis salaam) was "Noor" (light) and not a normal human.
Obviously, these are wrong beliefs and they go against what it says in the Quran (an example of Prophet being a human is in Surah 18, ayat 118).

Brailvis celebrate the Prophets Birthday (they call it "Eid Milad un-Nabi", or the "3rd Eid" -- but there are only 2 Eids in Islaam).

And they also celebrate all the bidahs you can think off.. from "Shab-e-Baraat", and "Shab-e-Maraj", to "Yar-wi (11th)" and "Khatam" (which means 'finish', but for some reason it doesn't khatam).
This is because they say "Badah Hasana" (or Good Bidah)... but in Islaam, ALL BIDAH is Bad.

The practising individuals from amongst them also believe that the dead relatives come to their house on Thursday evenings, and so they prepare food, and read "darood" on the food.

Practice of Magic is also common amongst the community (they say that "Black Magic" is haraam, but "White Magic" is allowed... but in islaam, ALL MAGIC IS HARAAM).

To protect against this magic and nazar (evil eye), most of them also wear "Taweez" (talismen or good-luck protection) around their necks. These are often given to them by their religious leaders (or "Peers").

They also believe that Allah is everywhere (another wrong belief).
And they say that the Prophet is also everywhere (Hazir Naazir).

If anyone differs with them, they call everyone "Wahabi".

And there is much more, but they started in India/Pakistan area... and most/all of their followers come from either Pakistan, Kashmir, India or Bangladesh.

They also love their Sufi Dhikr/Zikr... and some turn the lights off and chant "Allah Hoo"... and others do this after Salah (they say "Namaz").

They believe that the Prophet (salallhu alahi wa sallam) comes to visit them after the Jumah prayer, and so you will see them singing songs (they call them "Naa-at") after the Jumah Prayer.

But most of the average Brailvi followers don't know what they believe.

But its best to learn your deen and to keep away from the likes of Tahir ul-Qadri. Allahu Mus'ta'aan.

Subhaanaka Allaahumma wa bihamdika, ash-hadu an-laa ilaa'ha illa Anta, Astagh'firuka wa atoobu ilayk
(Glory is to You, O Allah, and All praise is to You. I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship but You (alone). I seek Your forgiveness and r

19-08-2009 @ 7:10 PM    Notify Admin about this post
unspecified ساجد (Mumbai (India))
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Wa 'alaykum as salaam warahmatullah,

As Br. Saqib has mentioned he is a follower of the deviant Brailwee sect. Please click here for a refutation of this sect and it's founder Ahmed Reza Khan by Shaykh Ihsaan Ilaahi Dhaheer rahimahullah.

Also, the Permanent Committee of Scholars of Saudi Arabia was asked the following question:-

Q: In Pakistan, there is an order known as the Bareilwi or the order of Nawary, as named after its current leader Nawari. I ask Your Eminence about the ruling of Shari`ah (Islamic law) on this order, its beliefs and the validity of offering Salah (Prayer) behind one of its members. May your answer relieve many confused hearts that are unaware of the truth! I again remind you of some of their common myths and beliefs, which are:

1- Believing that the Messenger (peace be upon him) is alive
2- Believing that the Messenger (peace be upon him) knows the Ghayb (unseen) and is present, especially after the Jumu`ah (Friday) Prayer
3- Believing that the Messenger (peace be upon him) has the right of giving intercession in advance
4- Believing in the Awliya' (pious people) and the dead at whose graves they offer Salah and ask for help
5- Building domes and lighting the graves
6- Repeating their famous supplication: O Muhammad, the Messenger (peace be upon him)
7- Getting angry with anyone who says Ta'min (saying: "Amin" after reciting Surah Al-Fatihah) aloud and raise their hands in Salah and considering them as belonging to the Wahhabi order
8- Finding it extremely strange that people use Miswak (tooth-cleansing stick) before offering Salah
9- Kissing the fingers during Wudu' (ablution) and Adhan (call to Prayer) as well as after Salah
10- Their Imam always recites the following Ayah (Qur'anic verse) after Salah: (Surah AlıAhzab, 33: 56) Allıh sends His Salıt (Graces, Honours, Blessings, Mercy) on the Prophet (Muhammad peace be upon him), and also His angels (ask Allah to bless and forgive him).  Consequently, the Ma'mums (persons being led by the Imam in Prayer) invoke Allah to send peace upon the Prophet collectively and loudly.
11- Gathering in circles after the Jumu`ah Prayer and engaging in loud singing and praise
12- Serving many kinds of food, including desserts, inside the Masjid (mosque) after ending the recitation of the whole Glorious Qur'an during Tarawih (special supererogatory night Prayer in Ramadan)
13- Building Masjids and being too preoccupied with decorating them in addition to writing on the Mihrab: O Muhammad
14- Considering themselves the followers of the Sunnah and true `Aqidah (creed) and deeming those who do not follow their order as wrong
15- What is the ruling of Shari`ah (Islamic law) on offering Salah behind the members of this order?

It is worth mentioning that I am a medical school student, living in Karachi near a Masjid subject to the supervision of the Bareilwi order.

A: It is impermissible to offer Salah behind an Imam who adopts such beliefs. If the Ma'mum knows that the Imam adopts these beliefs, then the Salah of the former will not be valid. Most of these beliefs entail Kufr (disbelief) and Bid`ah (rejected innovations in religion). They also contradict Tawhid (belief in the Oneness of Allah), which Allah revealed to His Messengers and in His Books, and are incongruous with the plain texts of the Qur'an. For example, Allah (may He be Praised) says:(Surah Al-Zumar, 39: 30) Verily, you (O Muhammad peace be upon him) will die, and verily they (too) will die. Allah also says:(Surah Al-Jinn, 72: 18) And the mosques are for Allıh (Alone); so invoke not anyone along with Allıh.

Hence, Muslims are required to reject their Bid`ah in a kind way. If they agree, then praise is due to Allah. If not, they should leave the company of those people and offer Salah in the Masjids of Ahl-ul-Sunnah (those adhering to the Sunnah). Khalil Al-Rahman (Prophet Ibrahim - peace be upon him) is a good example of such a case as is clear from the following Ayah:(Surah Maryam, 19: 48) And I shall turn away from you and from those whom you invoke besides Allıh. And I shall call upon my Lord and I hope that I shall not be unblest in my invocation to my Lord.

May Allah grant us success! May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions!

[url=]Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and 'Ifta[/url]

Click [url=]here[/url] and [url=]here[/url] for some more information regarding this doctor and his organization. Amongst other severe errors this individual even has the audacity to speak against Imaam Albaani rahimahullah. May Allah guide them or destroy them. Aameen.

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