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Al-Fudayl
02-01-2003 @ 12:00 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Brother(s)/Admin, please could you post this information below on salafitalk asap? Also when can you set me an account with the name **********? jazakallaahu khair.

I received some information, through a chain of a number of people through email about Abdul-Qadir of Luton and what he said about a person who is with him called Abu Zurah who is Libyan and also in Luton. Today I heard Usamah al-Qoosee on Paltalk praise this person and saying that he writes on alistiqama and speaking very well of him.

But Abdul-Qadir said in or around August of 2002 about this person (who may be the Imaam of the mosque in Luton):

"The Brother Abu Zura has lied to you, for alternative motives."

"The lies he said are three..."

"... Again another lie..."

"Also with all the lies said above..." (referring to Abu Zur'ahs many lies)

"...rather i am angry for the sake of Allah against Abu Zurah for the LIES he said... and by Allah they are nothing else but lies, and it is clear crystal clear what his motives for lying were..."

This is what Abdul-Qadir said about this same person Abu Zurah. I have heard he is Libyan.  If this is the same person why did he not give precedence to his own jarh  mufassar to the general tadeel that was being given by Usamah al-Qoosee in that talk today.

Abdul-Qadir also said in these same emails, quoting the hadeeth about hiding knowledge:

The prophet (s aw) said "whoever deliberatley hides knowledge, he will where a bridle of fire around his mouth on the day of judgement."

He quoted this hadeeth because he feared that not explaining the condition of this person would make a bridle of fire on the day of judgement to be placed upon him. in other words he is saying it was obligatory upon him to reveal this knowledge to that person. why did he not reveal this knowledge openly when general tadeel was being made and allowed the people to walk away upon ignorance about Abu Zur'ah and make them walk away only seeing a tadeel when he himself knows that this man makes lies?? Why did he conceal this knowledge? If this person is not trustworthy, lies and follows hawa and has his own motives why is his condition kept secret, especially if he will harm other muslims in the deen and the dunya?

Please post this information to expose this liar and deceiver. Because these people are not making their love and hate for the sake of the deen but hizbiyyah.


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Both Abdulqaadir and Abu Zur'ah have been known to defend openly Abul Hasan. Despite the fact that as Sheikh Rabee' says "21 of the scholars have refuted Abul Hasan, those from Yemen, Madinah, Makkah, Jizan." I heard this on the same day the sheikh put out his bayan for cooperation regarding Abul Hasan. It was Friday after Jumu'ah.

Sheikh Rabee' knows of both of them and their games they play. Their refutations are not knowledge based as any student of knowledge can see, and they mock at the salafees and leave the ahlu bida' and people of errors. Is this the sign of a salafi???

Also they do not give the elders their rights "for whever harms a friend of Mine then i am at war with him."as Allaah says in a hadeeth Qudsi narrated by Bukhaaree. And the friends of Allaah are the scholars first and foremost.

They stick to the general statements of some scholars and use them against the detailed JARH (citicism) made by the 21 scholars.

They claim that the salafees are blindfollowers of sheikh Rabee' even after the proofs have be established yet are all of the 21 scholars that refuted Abul Hasan blindfollowers as well?

AS sheikh al Banna said "Abul Hasan has done a lot of corruption. He has split the people, he has been put there to bring down the heads of da'watu salafiyyah as the heads of the ikhwaanis have been dropped by the likes of Sheikh Rabee'"

Indeed those above individuals have a lot to answer for, for the confusion they caused and doubts they brought regarding this affair.

Sheikh al Banna said yesterday in the haram in Makkah that we must not cooperate with those in Luton for their defence of Abul Hasan and We must not go to them.


  

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