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15-07-2003 @ 1:16 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalaamu alaikum.  

The following is a brief advice for sisters in general, on the manners of sitting in the lesson with the Shaykha, as we fall short in many simple areas.  

And the Shaykha advised us in B'ham aswell as London to advise one another for the Sake of Allaah, as when we do this we cleanse one another and hope for our brothers/sisters in Islaam to enter Jannah.  And we do it due to loving one another for the Sake of Allah.

Therefore the following are a few points i wanted to mention:

1.  The student of knowledge should eat and drink before attending the lesson.  So in the lesson they are ready with their pen and paper and attentively making notes to what is being taught.  As with drinks especially there is always the danger of them spilling upon either your own notes or somebody elses, which either way is not beneficial.

And any hardship one may face in seeking knowledge, from coping with heat or travel etc., then patience upon this will only increase our reward with Allaah (subhaana wa ta'aalaa), inshaAllah.

2.  Mothers should try to arrange for someone to take care of their smaller children whilst they attend the duroos, however if this is not possible, then to try their best to see to it that the children do not disrupt the lesson.  

As if the child cries or has tantrums due to heat, tiredness, illness, hunger etc. which is understandable, then the mother should attend to her child away from where the Shaykha is talking, as the child not only makes it difficult for the mother to listen, but other sisters who may be taking notes also.  

Not to mention that it can disrupt the flow of what the Shaykha is teaching and distract her also.  And it shows the height of the Shaykha's good manners in the patience which she has shown during the lesson when small children have been brought and disrupted the lesson, despite mothers being requested not to do so.  

As the Shaykha herself usually arranges for her children to be taken care  of whilst she comes out and teaches the sisters.  And she has advised the sisters to arrange this with their husbands (taking in turns to look after the children whilst seeking knowledge)during one of her lectures in B'ham also.

3.  All mobile phones should be switched off before the dars begins, and this is something that should be well established and well known, yet we still fall short in it often.

4.  Whilst the sister is asking the Shaykha for clarification regarding a particular word, we should not call out words which we think may be correct, rather we should put up our hands then wait patiently till asked to speak, or wait patiently for the translator to speak. As the translator will always check with the Shaykh to make sure that they understand the word correctly before translating it.  As people who study arabic should be aware, that one arabic word can have many different meanings in arabic.

5.  At the end of the dars then sisters should not rush the Shaykha with queries for personal details or questions.  Rather a clear way should be made for her to leave as she is not only a teacher but a mother and wife also and has many other responsibilites to attend to. And this is not good manners on our part if we keep her and crowd her as she clearly shows that she is waiting to leave.  

As mashaAllah what has been noticed from the Shaykha is that she is very particular with regards to her time. As mashaAllah not only does she begin the dars on time but ends it on time also and checks the time often.

And whilst in this country, she is a traveller also, so no doubt after teaching for 2 or more hours, she will be tired and in need of rest.

So let us not think of our convenience but rather to hers, and make it easy for her to go about her duties and responsibilities, during and after the lessons.

If anybody can think of any other benefit to add to this then please do so.  And i hope that in the future we will be able to observe these mannerisms better.  As the good manners of the student will only help them in their seeking of knowledge aswell as gaining the respect and love of the teacher, so that they want to come and teach and benefit us again and again, inshaAllah.

Wassalaamu alaikum

Umm Mariam

17-07-2003 @ 8:43 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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wa alaykumus salaam wa rahmatullaah,

Alhamdulillaah the lectures have been so benefical, I can't describe it in any other way except that the 'ilm tastes sweet' and the way the shaykhah teaches is wonderful. May Allaah bless her and her family, aameen.

As for the sisters falling short in simple areas, then I'm sure it's due to forgetfullness. As an addition to what was said, we should remember to remain sitting quietly until the dars has completly finished and not stand up.

Apart from that, may Allaah greatly reward all the sisters for attending the dars and raise the ranks of the brothers for looking after the kids.
Not forgetting the Salafee Masjid for arranging the lectures, jazakaAllaahu khair.

umm aboo yahyaa

13-06-2004 @ 7:05 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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As Salaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah
Do either of you sisters have any notes from the lectures that you could share with others from these most beautiful talks? I loved the eloquence and precision in the speech of our sister Umm 'Abdir-Rahman when she visited us here in the Emirates about a month ago, maa shaa Allah. Jazaakullah khairan if you could post them.

  في امانالله
والعصر ان الانسان لفي خسر الا الذين آمنواو عملوا الصالحات و تواصوا بالحق و تواصوا بالصبر

14-06-2004 @ 11:42 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalaamu alaikum,

Alhumdulillaah, i have notes ukhti that i and other sisters made and shared with as many sisters as we could.  So if you would like then send me a pm with details and i will email them to you.  And then you can send them out to the sisters on your list inshaAllaah.

As one of the things that the noble Shaykha Umm Abdir Rahmaan advised us was that knowledge is something that you don't want to keep for yourself.  But as soon as you have it, you want to give it away (meaning share with others).

I look forward to hearing from you.

Wassalaamu alaikum

Umm Mariam Lamis bint Ravi as-Sahontae UK

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