Hamdi | -- 21-09-2009 @ 9:05 PM | ||||
Asalamu alykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu Just wanted to know, are there any refutations from the Ulamah regarding the one who says the madhab of Saudi Arabia is Hanbalee? I was talking to an individual about not blind following madhabs but to stick to the madhab of the salaf. This person told me that The kingdom of Saudi Arabia is Hanbalee, I know this is not true (heard this doubt before and read something upon it, can't remember by which sh.)so insha'Allah I would appreciate it if someone posted about what the ulamah have to say about the one who claims this. Jazakallah khair wa alykum salaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu "In my time people where not impressed by speech, they were impressed by Actions. Any one can say whatever he wants"-Muhammeed Ibn Qaasim Umm yahya bint muhammed
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JameelFinch | -- 22-09-2009 @ 3:40 AM | ||||
As Salaamu 'Alaykum, Bismillah, Sh. Fawzaan mentions that, "The Math-hab that is followed in the Kingdom of Saudi 'Arabia is the Hanbali Math-hab. But one has to understand what is meant by this comment. One of two things can be meant by this: [1] - That the scholars of The Kingdom of Saudi 'Arabia are BLIND FOLLOWERS of the Hanbali Math-hab, and this is clearly not true. [2] - That the scholars of The Kingdom of Saudi 'Arabia rely heavily on the books of Hanabli Fiqh, and that they take what agrees with the proofs and leave what doesn't. This is the correct understanding of the statement that The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia follows the Hanbali Math-hab" End of Sh. Fawzaan's words. I'll reference the book where Sh. Fawzaan makes this statement when I get to my books, inshaa Allah. I am travelling right now. Added benefits around this topic: 1. In the Religious Elementary, Middle and High Schools in Saudi Arabia the fiqh book that is studied is Zaad 'Al-Mustaqn'i (with its explanations) a well known Hanbali Fiqh book. 2. In the University Of Umm al-Quraa in Makkah, and The University of Riyadh, the Book Ar-Rawd Al-Murb'i is studied in Fiqh. This is another well known Hanbali fiqh book. 3. Sh. Fawzaan's famous fiqh book Al-Mulakhas Al-Fiqhee is a summarization of Ar-Rawd Al-Murb'i', a well known Hanbali Fiqh Book. 4. Sh. Uthaymeen's book Sharhul-Mumt'i is an explanation of Zaad al-Mustaqn'i a well known Hanbali Fiqh book. 5. It should be noted that these Hanbali Fiqh books are complemented with a book of Hadeeth, usually Buloogh al-Maraam or Umdatul-Ahkaam. This is so the student can be aware of the proofs and opposing positions surrounding the fiqh issues he studies. And Allah knows best. There is a Fatwaa in the Permanent Committee of Scholar's collection of Fataawaa that discusses following Math-habs. Maybe one of the bothers can post it. Jameel Finch
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Husayn_El_Sharif | -- 22-09-2009 @ 3:52 PM | ||||
Wa 'alaykumussalaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh, Generally, when someone is accused of the likes of this, then the burden of proof is upon the one who makes the claim. In any case, this question was posed to Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan in a recording of the Explanation of the Four Fundamental Principles. The recording I have is dated December 5th, 2005. ---
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Hamdi | -- 23-09-2009 @ 7:33 AM | ||||
Asalamu alykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu Jazakallah khair for the benefit, what I meant by the person saying that The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia are Hanbali's is that she was trying to justify sticking to a particular madhab (shafi'ee)and the views of a particular Imaam, even if it contradicts the truth. Alhamdulillah, from what I gathered is that The Kingdom of Saudia Arabia study Hanbali fiqh with Ahadeeth Books and take the truth wherever it comes from? Nevertheless, Jazakallah khair for the clarification. "In my time people where not impressed by speech, they were impressed by Actions. Any one can say whatever he wants"-Muhammeed Ibn Qaasim Umm yahya bint muhammed
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ibnwaheed | -- 23-09-2009 @ 8:03 AM | ||||
The Salafee scholars follow a madhhab in the way that isn't a bid'ah. No one should assume that the fanatic taqleed that is shown today has any Islamic precedent. And Abu Muslimah said:
This is arbitrary tabdee' on a massive scale. What's ironic is that an individual will defend Abu Muslimah and say that the Salafee who criticizes him is extreme. Yet, Abu Muslimah declared ALL OF ARABIA'S SCHOLARS to be Ahl al-Bid'ah. Pages 7-9 has a thorough treatment of the issue. http://troid.org/media/pdf/aboomuslimah1.pdf
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sajid_chauhan_81 | -- 23-09-2009 @ 6:25 PM | ||||
The Permanent Committee of Scholars clarified its method while answering the third question from Fatwa No. 9580. This is the text of the answer: "The Committee gives Fatwas according to apparent legal proofs whether they conform to Al-Madhahib Al-Arba'ah (the famous Four Juristic Schools i.e. Hanafy, Maliky, Shafi'y, and Hanbaly) or with one of them and does not restrict itself to a specific Madhhab." source: Alifta.com Also see more fataawa at http://alifta.com/Fatawa/FatawaChapters.aspx?View=Tree&NodeID=1616&PageNo=1&BookID=7 and http://alifta.com/Fatawa/FatawaChapters.aspx?View=Tree&NodeID=1593&PageNo=1&BookID=7 which clarify that the Scholars, walillahilhamd, are not doing taqlid of any one particular madhhab.
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