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A Reply to the Accusations against Salafi Publications and those who Narrated Falsehood to Shaikh WasiýUllaah Abbaas


It reached us that accusations were made against Salafi Publications that were untrue, incorrect and amount to slander. So we have been advised that with correct manners we should respond to these inaccuracies.

No doubt people who carry animosity towards those at Salafi Publications (al-Maktabah as-Salafiyyah) have misinformed Shaikh WasiýUllah and that is why Shaikh WasiýUllah (hafidhahullaah) states his uncertainty throughout his criticisms of Salafi Publications. Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah states, ý..the person, then if he is lyingý i.e. if the narrator is lying. Or Shaikh WasiýUllaah would state, ýýif he comes forward to give Fatwa from himself...ý and ýHowever, if he narrates a Fatwa correctly, then this is something that is correct and is accepted...ý and, ýIt has also been mentioned to me by certain brothers, that he..ý etc. And this is common in the Shaikh's speech showing his uncertainty, may Allaah direct him to realize the falsehood of those narrating to him.

There is however, one affair that Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah is certain about: he does not like the fact that Salafi Publications has criticisms of the Jamýiyyah Ahlul-Hadith UK. So Shaikh WasiýUllaah stated: ýLikewise beware of warning people against Jamiat Ahle Hadith...ý and he has stated this on many different occasions, i.e. that he does not accept criticisms against the Jamýiyyah Ahlul-Hadith UK from Salafi Publications or others.

But we say: we have evidences that are numerous and ample, and we have some great Scholars with us in that criticism, such as al-ýAllaamah Badiýud-Deen Shaah as-Sindee, al-ýAllaamah Muqbil bin Haadee, al-Allaamah Ubaid al-Jaabiree, the esteemed Scholar Yahyah al-Hajooree, Shaikh Muhammad bin Haadee al-Madkhalee, just to mention a handful.

So therefore, Shaikh WasiýUllaah, may Allaah preserve him, has criticized Salafi Publications based upon narrations he received that are inaccurate and false. So, we remind those who relay the criticisms of Shaikh WasiýUllaah without insight or evidence, the statement of the great Imaam of the Sunnah, Maalik ibn Anas (died 179), who stated:

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ýEveryone after the Prophet (salallaahu ýalaihi wassallam) will have his statement either accepted or rejected, not so the Prophet, (salallaahu ýalaihi wassallam).ý

Reported by Ibn Abdil-Barrin Jaamiý Bayaan alýIlm


And we hope that Shaikh Wasiýullaah himself will see and realize that those who have narrated to him, have indeed narrated falsehood without evidence.

Further, we say the criticisms of Shaikh WasiýUllaah, hafidhahullaah, against Salafi Publications and his warning against the Maktabah is not considered as Jarh mufassar, i.e. it is not a detailed evidence-based criticism, rather is mubham (vague) and therefore not to be accepted. Additionally Shaikh WasiýUllaah criticisms of the Maktabah are not conerning the ýusool, i.e. his criticisms are not in the foundations of the Religion nor its fundamental principles and as such, not to be used to accuse the Maktabah of innovation, partisanship or kufr, as some individuals who ascribe themselves to the Shaikh have done, may Allaah protect us.

And to show this clearly, we have the beautiful and concise statement of Al-ýAllaamah, the bearer of the flag of Jarh wa Taýdeel, in our times, the precise and truthful Scholar, Rabee bin Haadee al-Madkhalee:

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ýIndeed, if there is a conflict between a disparaging criticism and a praise (ta'deel) of a person ý then no doubt, the correct position is that it is necessary to bring detail [evidence] for this vague, obscure, unclear disparaging criticism.

And the one who is known for having good Religion, Sunnah, Salafiyyah and Da'wah, then [all of this] is stronger [in his defense] than the praise of a Scholar or two Scholars...

For this reason you see the Salaf explaining and clarifying with proofs the misguidance of Ahlul-Bid'ah and the corruption in their manaahij (methodologies) ý and regarding that they have writings that cannot be enumerated [due to their vastness]!..

And Ibnus-Salaah (died 643H) concluded that the ta'deel (praise of a person) is accepted without mentioning its reasons. And that the disparaging criticism is NOT accepted except with CLEAR, detailed reasons [for that criticism]ýý


So not doubt, this clarity provided by the esteemed Shaikh Rabeeý (may Allaah preserve him), befits our situation precisely.

So now let us deal with the statements and accusations one by one so that the untruths of those who narrated to Shaikh WasiýUllaah are clarified.

1. The False Claim that Salafi Publications and Abu Khadeejah issue Fatawa without referring back to the ýUlamah.

These false claims accuse Salafi Publications of issuing fatawa without referring back to the Scholars.

Those individuals who falsely accuse the brothers at Salafi Publications carried these untruths to Shaikh Waseeýullaah Abbaas, which led Shaikh Waseeýullaah Abbaas to say:

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ýThe first time I came here, there was an individual who came to me, his name is Abdur-Rahmaan (Sheikh), whose wife used to attend their Mosque (of Salafi Publications) - Look at this misguiding of the Muslims?

And he himself used to attend Green Lane (Mosque of Jamiat Ahlel-Hadith) and they said that they are hizbiyyoon, they say that it is not permissible for a woman to remain with this husband (because he prays at Green Lane) ý and they did this ý the person, then if he is lying, then he said it in front of approximately 30 people.

He said: I donýt know how they entered my house, and they took out my wife and children and then after two days they sent her to Kuwait to her brothers. So I phoned my young son who is 3 years old, and he said to me: ýI donýt want you, you are a hizbee!ý

Subhaanallaah, this fitnah!

This is what they did! A person who falls into an affair, even myself. I asked Shaikh Rabeeý, 'Did you give them permission or a fatwa for this?' So he said: 'I do not know of this affair.' And the like of this there are many examples, so do not be tricked by them by way of the names of the Kibaar (they mention).ý

(Source: Masjid At-Tawheed (Branch of Jam'iyyah Ahlul-Hadeeth), London, August 2007)


Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah also stated:

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ýHowever he puts himself forward to give Fatwa. So I say, if he comes forward to give Fatwa from himselfýý


These accusations that the Maktabah issues fatawa from itself without recourse to the 'ulamah are untrue, and that they are not founded upon any evidence, indeed they are merely rumors and lies.

This example given by Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah, which is continually utilised by biased individuals who lie to Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah, is completely untrue. And here we present the evidence.

A letter written by the ex-wife of Abdur-Rahmaan (the individual mentioned in the Shaikh WasiýUllaah quote above), was sent to us by the sister herself. The sister's full name has been removed but her kunyah is included. However, if Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah would like to verify with the sister herself, we will inform him of her full name and her guardian's telephone number.



And of-course we did not go to Shaikh Rabee' ibn Haadee about Abdur-Rahmaan and his wife, since we did not issue the khula'! So what would be the purpose of going to Shaikh Rabeeý?

The only truthful thing about this whole ugly scenario is that indeed the former wife of Abdur-Rahmaan, did in fact write to Maktabah Salafiyyah seeking for us to intervene due to the ill-treatment of Abdur-Rahmaan towards her, and we followed up this application of the sister by writing to Abdur-Rahmaan asking him to respond to her concerns. However Abdur-Rahmaan himself took it upon himself to give the khula' to his wife after she requested it from him.

And all of this was preceded by two arbitrations carried out by ourselves wherein we sat to reconcile the differences between the couple. What is clearly established is that the claims the sister made against Abdur-Rahmaan were true, as Abdur-Rahmaan admitted himself at the time, and it is pitiful that he involved Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah in this affair. And if Abdur-Rahmaan requests from us directly, we can even post up the original application of the sister against him dating back to the exact day and month! And then all can see for themselves that the sister NEVER stated that the reason for her request for khula' was due to Abdur-Rahmaan's visitations to Green Lane or any alleged 'hizbiyyah'!

It is sad and even pathetic that a private and painful family matter such as this should be used as a "political football" by those hate-filled individuals who do not care that they are feeding untruthful information to Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah. And these people informed Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah that this is just one example and "there are many more". This behaviour is treacherous towards the Shaikh himself and only causes the people to place blame upon the Shaikh. But in reality, the blame is first and foremost upon those who lie to the Shaikh for their own political ends. And, we are hopeful that Shaikh WasiýUllaah will see the falsehood of those who narrate to him.

However, the point of all of this is: we did not issue the khula' of Abdur-Rahmaan, nor did we take the sister (and her children) out of their home and transport her to Kuwait! And nor are any further examples, except fabrications similar to this!

We posted the following a few years ago, and we repeat it here now as it is related to this very same Abdur-Rahmaan (from Birmingham):

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RUMOUR: ýMaktabah Salafiyyah aided a sister and her children and smuggled her out of the UK without the knowledge of her husband. And that Maktabah Salafiyyah gave the khulaý unjustly and without the knowledge of the husband.ý

RESPONSE: A complete fabrication and untruth. Regarding the case in question, then firstly, Maktabah Salafiyyah DID NOT issue the khulaý, rather he gave the khulaý himself.  

Secondly, Maktabah Salafiyyah DID NOT arrange or aid or facilitate any sister or her children to leave the UK. In fact, Maktabah Salafiyyah was COMPLETELY unaware of the circumstances of the sister leaving the country.  Thirdly, the brother HIMSELF released the sister and gave her the khulaý at HER REQUEST ý with witnesses present.

The wife and her guardian have borne witness to all of this. Maktabah Salafiyyah issued a certificate clearly stating that the wife requested the khulaý and the husband agreed to the request and granted his wife the khulaý.


We concealed his name previously to avoid highlighting this family issue, but Shaikh WasiýUllaah himself has mentioned the issue publicly including the name of the brother. The fact that Abdur-Rahmaan mentioned this issue in front of 30 individuals does not make it truthful! It merely means that he fabricated a story to 30 individuals. And as is well-known in the narrating of hadeeth that telling a lie to 30 people does not make a report truthful.

The strange thing is that this false and fabricated story has been in circulation for a few years, even carried to other Shaikhs as one example of many. In fact it is their ONLY example, and even this one example is a fabrication! May Allaah give us security.

However, there is no doubt that it is permissible to read and narrate fatawa from the Scholars past and present, and this is our habit and the way of the taalibul-ýilm. For example a student of knowledge may say, "The  Permanent Committee issued a fatwa.." or "Ibn Baaz (rahimahullaah) said..." or "Shaikh 'Ubaid stated..." or "Ahlul-'Ilm state...", so long as the person narrating relays the fatwa precisely and correctly, then this is fine.

Shaikh Ubaid stated:

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"..when Shaykh Waseeullaah Abbaas visited the Maktabah and said what he said of words that he did not fully comprehend, and which had been put into his ears by way of some people of biased personal interests..


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"And we know in these days what has afflicted Maktabah Salafiyyah in Birmingham, from a people who ascribe to the Sunnah. And these (people), I don't know what has carried them to (make) this audacious attack. And we, all praise is due to Allah, know the Maktabah for years, and that which we advise everyone who is affiliated with the Maktabah, regardless of whether it is someone who is part of it, or one who listens to its lessons (that are organised by it), or who is close to it, that they don't pay any attention to this audacious attack."


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"And I emphasize that you do not pay attention this hateful, large-scale attack, from some of those who ascribe to the Sunnah. And we know them to be students from the Islamic University (of Madeenah). And we know others, but we do not like to name anyone."


So now we ask brother Abdur-Rahmaan to fear the Day of Resurrection, when he will not be able to conceal falsehood and the truth will made manifest.

If Abdur-Rahmaan wishes to continue to make this accusation, then we ask him bring forth your evidences.

As the sister has stated, one may refer back to the Scholars of Kuwait.

As for the general accusation that we issue fatawa from ourselves without recourse to the Scholars, then those people who narrate to Shaikh Wasiýullaah should identify themselves and bring evidence for their claims.

So we are ready to see these evidences:

Our telephone number: 0121 773 0033
Our fax number: 0121 773 4882

2. The Claim that Salafi Publications made tabdeeý upon the Jamýiyyah Ahlul-Hadith UK

Again this claim is without basis, and the onus of proof is upon the one who makes such an accusation to bring us his evidence.

A questioner, may Allaah rectify him, states without evidence and proof to Shaikh WasiýUllaah, hafidhahullaah:

quote:
ýAnd what has come from him (i.e. Abu Khadeejah) is that he is extremely hasty in making Tabdee'..ý

(Question at Green Lane Mosque, in Birmingham, UK - Summer 2007)


The Shaikh himself stated at the same conference that Maktabah Salafiyyah made tabdeeý on the Jamýiyyah Ahlul-Hadith UK. (Source: Green Lane Mosque, in Birmingham, UK - Summer 2007)

So again, no doubt we state that returning to the truth and recanting when one is mistaken is an excellence. So we will see it as a virtue that we are corrected upon proof. So if Shaikh WasiýUllaah could mention his narrators so that they may be asked by us all for their evidence, just as those who narrated the false claim that we issued fatwa for Abdur-Rahmaan and his former wife.

If, however, the intent is the relaying of tabdeeý made by the Scholars upon the people of misguidance, such as relaying from Imaam Ibn Baaz, Ibn Uthaimeen, Al-Albaanee, Al-Fawzaan, and other than them from the Scholars based upon clear and apparent evidences, then this is something allowed as the Scholars have stated.

So we are ready to hear from those narrators:

Our telephone number: 0121 773 0033
Our fax number: 0121 773 4882

3. The Claim that Abu Khadeejah Informed The British Authorities Green Lane Masjid and the Jamýiyyah ýHarbour Terroristsý

Shaikh WasiýUllaah, may Allaah forgive him and us, stated:
quote:
ýIt has also been mentioned to me by certain brothers, that he (abu khadeejah) has said that he has informed the British authorities that Green Lane Masjid and the Jamiat are radicals and harbour terrorists. Meaning that he himself has informed the authorities of this.ý

(Question at Green Lane Mosque, in Birmingham, UK - Summer 2007)


We say with all openness and clarity that this is falsehood and a severe lie. Abu Khadeejah and the Maktabah have never done this. NEVER have we gone to the authorities about Green Lane Masjid or the Jamýiyyah Ahlul-Hadith UK.

We ask the Shaikh WasiýUllaah to name us the ýcertain peopleý who mentioned this lie to him, as they themselves never identify themselves, so that we may ask them for their proof.

This accusation is dangerous and the one who makes such a claim must bring his proof or openly recant. The onus of proof is upon the one who made the claim as the Prophet, salallaahu ýalaihi wassallam, stated.

And it is clear that Shaikh WasiýUllaah is uncertain about the truthfulness of this claim, though he still narrates it, as he states:

quote:
ýIf in reality he has done this and it is trueýý


It is unfortunate that the Shaikh narrated this false statement, though he is uncertain of its authenticity, from those who circulate lies. No doubt, it would have been better for the Shaikh to verify the information that had reached him and sought evidence before making such a grave accusation. Indeed it shows the distasteful character of those individuals who would narrate such lies to the Shaikh. How much more does it highlight the nasty character of those who would translate and circulate such speech without any proof or evidence?!

There are those biased individuals who will say that since you warn against the Jamýiyyah and its political activities, this is tantamount to informing the authorities. This is semantics and deviation from the accusation at hand, since the accusation narrated by Shaikh WasiýUllaah from ýcertain peopleý is: ýýhe has informed the British authorities that Green Lane Masjid and the Jamiat are radicals and harbour terrorist. Meaning that he himself has informed the authorities of thisýý and the Shaikh WasiýUllaah further states:

ýIt is known that the Jamiat has indeed tasted a severe trial and harm regarding this issue..ý

Then the Jamýiyyah tasting harm due to this issue is due to secret video recordings that were made by a TV channel within their mosque, not due to the false claim that Salafi Publications, ýinformed the British authorities that Green Lane Masjid and the Jamiat are radicals and harbour terrorists.ý!!

Any comments made by Salafi Publications were after the screening of the TV documentary, but even then there was NO mention that, ýGreen Lane Masjid and the Jamiat are radicals and harbour terroristsý. It is a shameful act by those who narrated this to Shaikh WasiýUllaah.

So NO attention is to be paid to these accusations, regardless of those who send them out to thousands across the world, in name of spreading knowledge.

Shaikh Ubaid al-Jaabiree said about those who spread falsehood about Maktabah Salafiyyah:

quote:
ýAnd I emphasize that you do not pay attention this hateful, large-scale attack, from some of those who ascribe to the Sunnah. And we know them to be students from the Islamic University (of Madeenah). And we know others, but we do not like to name anyone.ý


And likewise we do not like to name anyone!

However, if the narrators wish to bring their proof, then again we say:

Our telephone number: 0121 773 0033
Our fax number: 0121 773 4882

4. The False Claim that Abu Khadeejah was at one time with the Jamýiyyah Ahlul-Hadith and from them!

Someone informed Shaikh WasiýUllaah, may Allaah preserve him and protect him from the wrong-doers,

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ýRather he (abu khadeejah) himself did not take the correct Aqeedah, except from them. As he was once with them and from them.ý


Abu Khadeejah and Salafi Publications have never been ýwithý the Jamýiyyah and never ýfrom themý, nor did he ýtake the correct ýaqeedahý from them.

However, we did try on many different occasions to co-operate with them and advise them about their errors.

What is correct is that we have been organizing our own conferences and seminars and dawrahs and inviting the Scholars independently since 1993! In fact, in those times when Suhaib Hasan was "apparently" fine, we even invited him to one conference! And this was before the refutations of Shaikh Muqbil, Shaikh Muhammad bin Haadee, Shaikh Yahyah al-Hajooree and others upon him.

As for taking ýaqeedah from the Jamýiyyah Ahlul-Hadeeth, then the Jamýiyyah never taught any books of ýaqeedah or tawheed (before we established our Salafi Masjid) ever at Green Lane that anyone could attend. Rather, we used to invite our own speakers and Scholars to Green Lane Masjid in the nineties (before we established Masjid as-Salafi) and teach the ýaqeedah in Green Lane. We brought Shaikh Yahyah al-Hajooree, Shaikh Muhammad bin Haadee and Shaikh Abdus-Salaam Burjiss (amongst others) to Green Lane Masjid, even though the Masjid and the Jamýiyyah itself was resistant, as anyone can verify by asking Shaikh Muhammad bin Haadee and Shaikh Yahyah al-Hajooree.

So yet another lie has been narrated to Shaikh WasiýUllaah, which unfortunately Shaikh WasiýUllaah repeated openly and publicily.

We ask that Allaah, the Most Prefect and Most High, the All-Forgiving, Bestower of Mercy, to forgive us our shortcomings and to direct Shaikh WasiýUllaah to realize the falsehood of those narrating to him, and to rectify what he has said incorrectly about Salafi Publications.

And we will keep our respected readers informed if anyone has telephoned identifying themselves as narrators (on a weekly basis), so you will see for yourselves the type of people we are dealing with.

Again our telephone number: 0121-773-0033 (ask for Abu Khadeejah or Abu Hakeem) or fax: 0121-773-4882. Let's see if these people will present any proof or evidence.

And we all know, as Salafis, a statement without a chain of narration is rejected and a claim without proof is a false claim.

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We would like to thank our Salafi brothers at 'Maktabatus Salafiyyah' for their account on the recent events with Shaykh Wasi'Ullah Abbaas.

Will these people now make taubah who narrated lies to Shaykh Wasi'Ullah that Salafi Publications dissolved the marriage of that brother and sister, and the implied charge of abducting her and her children. And will they name those who told Shaikh Wasi'ullah that Abu Khadeejah informed the goverment against Green Lane mosque?

In recent times we have found brothers in London who have been flying the flag of Jammiyyah Ahle Hadis using the speech of Shaykh Wasi'Ullaah about our brother Abu Khadeejah to attack us due to our affliation with Maktabatus Salafiyyah.

And our affliation with Maktabatus Salafiyyah is solely based upon Ta'awun 'ala birri wat taqwa, as Allaah The Most High has stated in His Noble Qur'aan.

"Help you one another in Al­-Birr and At­-taqwa (virtue, righteousness and piety); but do not help one another in sin and transgression. And fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is Severe in punishment" (Al-Ma'idah 5:2)

We only know good from our brother Abu Khadeejah and have not in the 10+ years that we have known him or ever seen that which has been attributed to him from these nasty allegations!

Wa Billaahit-Tawfeeq.

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Just a few words that we wish to add regarding Salafi Publications and Abu Khadeejah (Hafidhahullah) to what has already been mentioned.

We have worked with Salafi Publications and Abu Khadeejah for several years. During this time we have seen nothing from the brothers except much goodness, honesty, refraining from speaking without precedence from the scholars both in public speeches and private gatherings, and all Praises be to Allah.

We have never heard from Abu Khadeejah or other than him making tabdee of Ahlul Hadeeth or tabdee of anyone who associates himself with Ahlul Hadeeth. Nor have we heard from Abu Khadeejah or other than him from the maktabah that he reported Ahul Hadeeth to the British authorities. The trials that Ahlul Hadeeth have faced are as a result of the bad media coverage they received through the Dispatches programme. This is the reality and these are the facts and for this blame to be put on Abu Khadeejah seems a disgraceful attempt to defame him in the eyes of others. Maybe if they controlled what DVDs they were selling and who they were threatening to kill, the Dispatches program would have had nothing to broadcast! Even Yasir Qadhi came to their defence. Verily Allah is an All-Watcher and there is no doubt that we will be held accountable for everything we do.

As for the incident of the brother?s marriage then we see this as a tactless approach that some have used. This is a private matter of their friend and they?ve brought it to the public arena for their political gain.

To conclude then with regards to our brother Abu Khadeejah in specific we say, we have spent much time with him, travelled with him, sought general advice from him, organised many lectures with him and other than this. Never have we seen the characteristics that have been falsely attributed to him. So we categorically reject these allegations and wanted to voice a few just words regarding our brother, Abu Khadeejah hafithahullah.?

Its strange how so many bad words are said publicly in lectures about Salafi Publications based upon flimsy rumours? But nothing about the errors in usul and fundamentals of the Jamiyyah Ahlil Hadith that are proven without a doubt? Nothing about the grave errors of Yasir Qadhi or Dr. Suhaib? Strange! May Allah aid us.

Albaseerah Bradford

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The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) said "If you have no shame, then do as you please".  And this is indeed what we see from many of those fitnah mongers on the internet and sometimes in the masaajid spreading lies and slander about our beloved brothers at maktabah salafiyyah, but their sickness is such that even the scholars are not free from their tongues.  May Allaah save us from such misguidance!

We came to know about our brothers at the Maktabah 7+ years ago, and never have we found them to be upon what is attributed to them.  Rather Allaah guided us through them and Allaah made them as intermediaries between ourselves and the 'ulema, and now we ourselves visit and benefit from the ulamah due to the encouragement of Salafi Publications.  This is from the Decree of Allaah, and it is a favour of Allaah.

The above is not based on partisanship, rather this is the truth, and Allaah knows that, and that is what matters the most.

We remember a telephone call that was made to Shaykh Rabee' 3-4 years ago from Masjid as-Sunnah in Cranford regarding doing a conference, and Shaykh Rabee' told the brothers from Masjid as-Sunnah to make sure that they work with Maktabah Salafiyyah in Birmingham.  This is called tazkiyyaah, masha' Allaah.

We also remember the many praises we have heard about our brothers, such as Abu Khadeejah and Abu Hakeem and Abu Talha from the likes of Shaykh Rabee, and Shaykh 'Ubayd and Shaykh Falaah and Shaykh al-Anjaree, and others.  

So indeed the one who spits at the moon, then he only gets his own face wet.

However, when we see evil, filthy and despicable attributions towards our brothers, or towards our 'ulema, then it only reminds us about the shaytan and how he misleads people, and it only increases us in our love for them, and make us dislike those who falsely accuse them.  This is indeed oppression, that they will have to answer for.

Finally, we would like to say what our Shaykh 'Ubayd al-Jaabiree said to one of our brothers "they only say these things because they are jealous of you (i.e. jealous of your desire for knowledge, attendance at the duroos and closeness to ahlul 'ilm)."

And Allaah knows best.

BaarakAllaahu feekum

wassalaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuhu

Markaz Mu'adh Ibn Jabal &
SalafiBookstore, Slough

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I wish to add few words regarding Salafi Publications and Abu Khadeejah (Hafidhahullah) to what has already been mentioned above.

I have known Salafi Publications and Abu Khadeejah for more than nine years. During that time I have not seen or heard  nothing from the brothers except much goodness, honesty,and all Praises be to Allah.

These accusations are disgraceful,tasteless, and clearly baseless.

Allaah says,

"O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done."

(Al-Hujurat 49:6)

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Assalam Alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh,

I wish to say to the Brothers in the Maktabah-us-Salafiyyah not to be be despaired about these fallacies of the people of Baatil but instead to be on the Haqq and continue to spread the true dawah for these people know nothing except lies just as the noble Mashayikh of Sunnah has stated, it has happened to the best of mankind-Muhammad bn Abdullah (Salawat wa salam alayhi)and to his noble Sahabas( radiyallahu anhum ajmaeen) to our noble scholars like Imam Abdulwahhab(rahimahu Allahu) and others.

Please continue with the rectification and  would I like that you explain things to the noble Shaykh(hafidhahu Allah. May Allah preserve us for his deen and make us steadfast. Ameen.

reza
03-11-2007 @ 4:50 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalamu Alaikum,

My Salafis Bros in colombo will vouch for the fact we had invited many Foreign English speakers from late 1980's for lectures.Believe me we all were  acting like muftis  may Allah forgive us.Thru Allahs mercy Br Aboo Khadeejah & Spubs was the first bros who kept pushing we have to link with the Ulemas when they came for 2 visits a few years back. And in the 2 visits I don't recall a single incident where he called to himself or Spubs. Rather He and the other bros pushed us to link with the scholars. Alhamdulillah now the Our salafi brothers mainly in jeddah, makkah and medina will testify How many srilankan Bros visit the Mashaikhs to get guidance, advice and fatawas.

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04-11-2007 @ 5:39 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Akhee "amwaat.morg" is a cesspit where those with diseased hearts gather together to eat flesh under the disguise of refuting the so called "ghulat and haddadiyyah" when they are the greatest of ghulaat and haddaadiyyah in resemblance.

If you were to take even just a quick glance into that cesspit you will find outright takfir and tabdee from unknown ignorant people and the site owners happily allow it to go on and even highlight these posts as important reads!

"ya munafiq of birmingham"
"ya munafiq"
"displays all the characteristics of Abdullah bin Ubayy bin Salul"
"Hamza Yusuf is a saint compared to you"

These are just a few statements from one thread, this is outright takfeer and  tabdee. Its quite a spectacle to see these people being deceived into believing they are enjoining the good and forbidding the evil when their misguidance is so clearly visible and apparent. All of them are in on it, the site owners and the few participants who contribute (its the same individuals most of the time).  The only time they post is when there is an opportunity to attack spubs. The fact that the admins allow this stuff to be posted and remain there for  months proves that they are in agreement and condone this ghuloo and haddaadiyyah.

Remember the unlissted fitnah a few years back. This individual came out accusing this one of zinaa and that one of zinaa, hardly anyone escaped his vicious tongue and the majority of them watched on in amusement and many of them joined in. No proof, no evidence. This was after they were brandishing Shaikh Abdul-Muhsin's book "Rifqan Ahl us-Sunnah bi Ahl us-Sunnah". They are  a confused, deceived, and contradictory bunch of individuals (site owners and participants included). Laugh at them or cry for them, its all the same. They are poor misguided souls who are deceived by Shaytan thinking they are doing actions they will be rewarded for.

People should not get involved with them on their platform thinking they can write posts to advise those individuals. Don't enter their sewer. You will never make it clean and free it of smell. Waste of time. Diseased hearts affect non-diseased hearts, not the other way around.

You've tasted first hand the nature of these people but you certainly won't be the last. That they have gone to the level of deceiving Shk. Wasiullah and using him as a means to spread fabrications and lies is merely a small indication of the lengths they are prepared to go to.

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06-11-2007 @ 1:43 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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IN THE NAME OF ALLAAH THE MOST MERCIFUL THE BESTOWER OF MERCY

THE SLANDERERS CAN NEVER FRUSTRATE US, IF WE REMAIN FIRM (INSHAA-ALLAAH) THROUGH PATIENCE, CERTAINTY AND DEDICATION TO ILM AND ACTION UPON THAT

Allaah (subhaanah) said:

''And We made from among them leaders giving guidance under Our Command, when they were patient and used to believe with certainty in Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, sings, revelations, etc.) 32:24

Imaam Sadi (rahimahullaah) said:

''WE MADE FROM THEM??, that is: from amongst the Children of Israel ''leaders giving guidance under Our Command'', and that is: scholars of Sharee-ah and the path of Guidance, who were guided themselves and guided others through that Guidance.  For the Book that Allaah sent down upon them is Guidance, and those who believed in it were of two categories: those who guided (others) under the Command of Allaah and those who made ittibaa of it.

The first category of (people) are of a higher station after the station of Prophethood and Messengership, and that is the station of the Truthful Ones.   They attained that high station through exercising patience upon learning, teaching, calling to Allaah, bearing the harms whilst holding unto the path of Allaah and having reliance upon that in keeping away from disobedience, and utilising it as shield  against the shahawaat.

??AND THEY USED TO BELIEVE WITH CERTAINTY IN OUR AAYAAT??

that is: they entered into Eemaan through the (evidences, proofs, revelations, lessons) of Allaah, and then proceeded towards Certainty, and it (Certainty) is perfect knowledge that necessitates action.  Rather, they reached this station because of sound learning, and obtainment of the proofs from the masaa-il (issues of the deen) that are useful in attaining Certainty.   And they did not stop learning about the masaa-il and utilising them as a reference point due to what it contained of abundant proofs, until they reached this (Certainty).  

THROUGH PATIENCE AND CERTAINTY, LEADERSHIP IN THE RELIGION IS ACHIEVED
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All praise is due to Allaah.  The leaders in this deen are alive today, and they are none other than the ulema of salafiyyah.  They are the examples to follow, because they nurture the ummah upon the path of the Salafus Saalih.  

We ask Allaah to guide these miserable slanderers, for they seek to pick and choose what suits their desires, and then embark upon a campaign of slander against those who desire to hold onto the correct manhaj positions.  So let the tullaabul ilm and the du-aat of salafiyyah stand firm in conveying the saheeh manhaj from the ulema and fear not the blame of the blamers.  

Although we do not seek to reply to all the filth that exits the mouths of these tale carriers, however, we are not to be terrorized by their manhaj of foul speech, deceit and slander, which the devil has designated as a weapon for them to utilize against those who wish to hold onto the correct manhaj positions.  They want to divert us from beneficial knowledge, as they busy their souls with impure speech, hasad, nameemah and fasaad.  Our noble brother Maroof (above) gave a golden advice as stated in his post as follows:

"They are a confused, deceived, and contradictory bunch of individuals (site owners and participants included). Laugh at them or cry for them, its all the same. They are poor misguided souls who are deceived by Shaytan thinking they are doing actions they will be rewarded for.  People should not get involved with them on their platform thinking they can write posts to advise those individuals. Don't enter their sewer. You will never make it clean and free it of smell. Waste of time. Diseased hearts affect non-diseased hearts, not the other way around."

Therefore, O Salafi Athari!  If the likes of these ones HAVE NOT EVEN SPARED SOME OF THE ULEMA,then do you expect them to spare Abu Khadeejah or other than him?  

Allaah said:

"Allaah accepts only the repentance of those who do evil in ignorance and foolishness and repent soon afterwards; it is they whom Allaah will forgive and Allaah is Ever All-Knower, All-wise.  And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil deeds until death faces one of them and he says: "Now I repent", nor of those who die while they are disbelievers.  For them We have prepared a painful torment" 4:127-128

We ask Allaah for Ikhlaas and Thabaat

Abu Mu-aawiyyah Abdullaah Bin AbuBakr Al Fulaani Al Gambi

abdullah.gambi
08-11-2007 @ 1:46 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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IN THE NAME OF ALLAAH THE MOST MERCIFUL THE BESTOWER OF MERCY

THE OBLIGATION OF STANDING OUT FIRMLY FOR JUSTICE AND SEEKING BY IT THE REWARD OF ALLAAH (SUBHAANAH)

Allaah (subhaanah) said:

''O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allaah as just witnesses''

Imam Sadi (rahimahullaah) said, that is:

''O you who believe in what has been commanded of belief in Him (Allaah), stand out firmly for that which your faith necessitates, and be just witnesses for Allaah.  Be enthusiastic about standing out firmly for justice in both your apparent and hidden actions, and carry that out only for Allaah, and not for some material gain from the worldly materials.  

Be determined in establishing justice, for that is uprightness.  And there should neither be excess nor neglect in your statements and actions (in that regard), and stand out firmly for that (justice) on behalf of a relative or a non-relative, a friend or an enemy??.    

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Therefore, O Sunni Athari! Be it for Abu Khadeejah or anyone else, our Lord has commanded us to testify to the haqq when required to do so.    

Sheikh Ahmad Sibaayee (Hafidha-hullaah) mentioned at the Manchester conference, ??Indeed the Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) defended an Arabian horse when that which was not its character was mentioned about it, then how about defending the honor of a Muslim''.   Therefore, we seek Allaah's protection from that laziness and weakness that prevents an individual from actively standing out firmly for justice.

Likewise, we must distance ourselves from that disease of the heart, and that is finding pleasure in that which causes grief to the Muslim.   We cannot be from those people who never defend anyone even when the haqq is very clear, but are always critical towards those who defend others for the sake of Allaah.  

We ask Allaah for Ikhlaas and Thabaat

Abu Mu-aawiyyah Abdullaah Bin AbuBakr Al Fulaani Al Gambi

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Many weeks and Months have gone by...
Still no one has come forth with evidence...
And no names of narrators...


Our initial post weeks ago asked for evidence and narrators of the specific allegations that were narrated to Shaikh Wasi'ullaah (hafidhahullaah).

Yet weeks have passed and NOT a single person has telephoned or faxed or mailed a single evidence backing up the allegations.

Since these comments were made by Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah (hafidhahullaah), one would assume that Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah would hold the narrators who reported to him to be "trustworthy" individuals who could quite easily name themselves and bring forth evidence - so why have they not done so?

Our manhaj is firmly established in the fact that narrators must be known and that evidence is brought before allegations are made, not that they make the allegations first, distribute them online and then go out and look for the proofs for these accusations weeks later in their own good time!

Why was there no verification of these allegations? Why was this translated by those who ascribe themselves to Madeenah University, without verification, without any email contact, without any letter or fax? Indeed Shaikh 'Ubaid stated: "And I emphasize that you do not pay attention this hateful, large-scale attack, from some of those who ascribe to the Sunnah. And we know them to be students from the Islamic University (of Madeenah)." Nevertheless, we urge these young brothers who attended Madeenah to contact us and sit with us and provide evidences for what they have translated and spread from the words of Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah.

It is unfortunate that such grave allegations can be made, yet no evidence provided. Worse still no remorse has been displayed for these serious attacks upon the brothers at Salafi Publications.

In fact it shows the lack of respect they have for the honour of Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah, that they would narrate such things to him, and hear him make allegations against Salafi Publications without proofs, then they translate these serious allegations, and then stand back, leaving the Shaikh in a position whereby he is seen to make allegations without proofs.

So where is the retraction and remorse of those who narrated to Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah that we separated Abdur-Rahmaan from his wife and removed or abducted her and her children and sent her to Kuwait? And where is the retraction and remorse  (and the identities) of those who narrated to Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah that, "And the like of this there are many examples!"? So where are these 'many examples'? They dishonour and disrespect the Shaikh by narrating untruths to him, and then show no remorse. And where is the retraction and remorse of the translators who translated this (and other than this attack) without evidence or proof. By Allaah, this is not the way of the students of knowledge. And if these translators and propagators wish to come forward and challenge us with these allegations (narrated to Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah), then let it be known we are ready to sit with them and see their proofs for what they have translated.

By Allaah! Our love for the 'ulamah is such that we would feel ashamed that our Shaikh was told something untruthful and that he should sleep a single night without being told the truth so that he could correct the error! But these narrators seem to have little concern for the honour of Ahlul-'Ilm!

So they've allowed two weeks to go by whilst knowing that Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah said, "He (abu khadeejah) has said that he has informed the British authorities that Green Lane Masjid and the Jamiat are radicals and harbour terrorists. Meaning that he himself has informed the authorities of this.ý Yet, they have not backed up this false accusation and fabrication, and subsequent translation and dissemination with any evidence or proof.

In another thread we have discussed another one of their false allegations that they carried to Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah, claiming that Salafi Publications distributed a "leaflet" against Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah outside our Masjid on Jumu'ah. Yet, even for that, not a shred of evidence have they brought forth, nor a retraction or a tawbah. In fact, now these accusers are indicating that one brother may have passed an article of Shaikh Ubaid (printed from Salafitalk.net) to one other brother somewhere in England - and they exagerated this to be "a distribution, a handing out of leaflets, an attack upon Shaikh Wasi'ullaah by SP" and then narrated that to Shaikh Wasi'ullaah! May Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, protect us! May Allaah rectify them and pardon them.

So why have these narrators not identified themselves? Why have they not repented, and recanted and apologised? Why have they not informed Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah that they in fact fabricated these stories and shamefully convinced him? Why do they ignore the clear and open errors of the Jam'iyyah and its heads and focus their attacks upon Salafi Publications? Ponder O reader!

We feel sorry for these poor souls who will have to face Allaah with what they have alleged unless they rectify themselves.

Are they are too ashamed and embarrassed to phone us, sit with us and bring their evidences for the above allegations? Is it because they know that their fabricated allegations have reached other Scholars also? Or is it because pride is getting in the way? Whatever it is, we urge them to ponder and turn to their Lord in regret and then proceed to recitify these grave allegations. And this will also also lead to Shaikh Wasi'Ullaah correcting what he stated due to these fabricated narrations.

Again our telephone number: 0121-773-0033 (ask for Abu Khadeejah or Abu Hakeem) or fax: 0121-773-4882. Let's see if these people will present any proof or evidence.

And we all know, as Salafis, a statement without a chain of narration is rejected and a claim without proof is a false claim.


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Reminder to all about the oppression against Salafi Publications over the last several years culminating with this... We have had NO knowledge-based response, NO communications and NO retractions.

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[url=http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=28&Topic=6074&sortby=desc]Shaykh Ahmed as-Subay'ee[/url] finished off, right at the end of the lecture, by specifically sending his salaam to our brothers Abu Khadeejah Abdul-Waahid and Abu Talhah Daawood Burbank. He further encouraged the people to co-operate and seek guidance in the da'wah from the brothers at Salafi Publications.







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