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Topic: The difference between Ahlu-Bidah of the past and today!
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 ilyas.abu.ameenah
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Abu Aminah Ilyas bin Friedhelm
(Germany)
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As selam aleykum ve rahmetullah.
I had a discussion with a Muslim about the Ahlu-Bidah. And I informed him about the Manhaj from the Salaf of the Past, how there behave with Ahlu-Bidah. And that they was harsh and refute the Ahlu-Bidah. And that they advise that it´s not good to sit with Ahlu-Bidah, and Talk with Ahul-Bidah etc.
So this Muslim interrupt and said, that there is a difference between Ahlu-Bidah of the Past and Ahlu-Bidah of Today. And that we not behave to Ahlu-Bidah of today the same as the Salaf behave to the Ahlu-Bidah of the Past, because now we have not the strength. And than he said, that some Scholars had explained this matter.
I know that there is no diffrence between the behaviour against the Ahlu-Bidah of the Past and the behaviour of Ahlu-Bidah of Today. But I need some statemant´s from the Scholars about that, so that I can give it to him.
So I need articles about: That there is no difference in behaviour agianst Ahlu-Bidah of the Past and the behaviour against the behaviour agianst the Ahlu-Bidah of today.
So please post some links or when the Taalib´s have some free time, so that they can write some about that issue.
Barakallahu feeqhum.
As selam aleykum ve rahmetullah ve barakatuh.
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| Abu.Maryam.T
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Refutation on the Partisan Groups When Ahl us-Sunnah are Weak |
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| Questioner: Some people say to us that we are weak and we are not able to refute the partisan groups and due to this they say we should not refute the partisan groups, so what is your advice O Shaikh? |
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Shaykh Rabee`: Salafiyyah has not reached this level of weakness and loss and to Allaah belongs all praise. In every time the Salafiyoon enjoy the good and forbid the evil. And they warn against the innovators and the people of tribulations. Anyway, if this companion of innovation is quiet then leave him to die with his innovation and do not mention him. However, if he was active in spreading his innovation and misguidance and his tribulation then it is not allowed to be quiet upon this evil. And a Muslim now in any country is able, whether salafi or otherwise, is able to say a word of truth but with wisdom, proof and evidence.
If this innovation was being spread and it overwhelms the youth then you say we are weak but the situation is not like that. For by Allaah, they are not able to imprison you nor are they able to kill you. They are not able to do this is any country (amongst the countries of the world) and to Allaah belongs all praise. This is a blessing. ?There will not cease to be a group clearly upholding the truth? They are clear, their statements are clear, their proofs are clear, and their actions also, all praise belongs to Allaah. They will not be harmed by those who oppose them nor by those who differ with them until the promise of Allaah comes. What is important is that the method must be honourable and there is wisdom along with proof. Barakallaahu feekum. If the situation is like that then whether the partisan groups like it or not and they will not be pleased in any day.
Also, if they are encouraged to promote their falsehood and they fill the world with it using their different methods, then if you are quiet and I am quiet then when will the people know the truth as Imam Ahmed rahimahullaah said. So refuting is an obligation upon them barakallaahu feekum. |
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| Questioner: Is this to be always referred to the people of knowledge since some say you should not refute yourself for you live in the West but you must return to the people of knowledge and say what they have to say? |
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Shaykh Rabee`: If it is possible to return to the people of knowledge then that is fine, so mention their statements and if it is not possible and the innovation is clear and the misguidance is clear and you are able to clarify even if you are a student of knowledge then clarify it. If you are not able then it is not allowed for you to speak about the religion of Allaah, absolutely not, don?t speak except with knowledge ?and do not speak without knowledge indeed the hearing, seeing, and heart all of them he will be responsible for.? Even the scholar, it is not allowed for him to speak except with knowledge, proof and evidence. This is speech regarding Allaah religion - Barakallaahu feek.
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Shaykh Rabee` bin Haadee
Question to Sheikh Rabee? ibn Haadi al Madkhalee on refuting the Partisan groups. Dated 26/4/03 ? 24 Safar 1424
Translated by Abdulilah Lahmami
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و لا عيب على من أظهر مذهب السلف وانتسب إليهه و اعتزى إليه , بل يجب قبول ذلك منه بالإتفاق, فإن مذهب السلف لا يكون إلا حقا. المجموع الفتاوى ٤/۱٤٩
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10-10-2005 @ 6:43 AM
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