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ummmusa88
07-04-2009 @ 4:28 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Umm Musa bint Muhammad (New York)
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Asalamualaikum warahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

I often used to hear from my parents about the asceticism of Hasan al-Basri
and the famous worshiper Raabiah... however, these stories that I was told
were very very Sufi influenced and actually involved many un-Islamic
aspects... Now, I have come across many sayings of Hasan al-Basri and
mashaAllah he rahimuhullah was upon the Sunnah. I also just came across a
narration from Raabiah from a reliable Salafi website...

So I would like someone to please clarify why there seems to be a "two-
sidedness" to these two individuals... Sufi stories regarding them are very
common particularly in South Asia. If you even google their names actually,
you will see how many websites are dedicated to them and all these insane
stories and "miracles" they used to perform... subhanAllah.


ummmusa88
18-05-2009 @ 11:41 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Can anyone clarify this please inshaAllah..

UmarTheFloridian
19-05-2009 @ 8:09 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Aboo Sifr Daniel bin Adam (Al-Ahsa, Eastern Province, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
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al-Hasan al-Basri and Raabiah are two of the most favorite targets for Sufi fabrications.  If you look into their books, you will find volumes of citations and claimed sources for "Sufic" quotes from the both of them with references and everything.  References to other Sufi books, that is, and most often to books that even the shuyookh of the Sufis themselves don't actually check.  It is a part of their taqleed culture, where they consider is obligatory upon the individual Muslim to not only blindly follow (that is the closest translation for taqleed in this context) a fiqh madhhab but also to blindly follow a "shake."

If you want to go through and find where the fabrication is in every quote, then you could spend a lifetime looking (and I am sure some of the 'ulamaa of the past have already done this).  What might be better, however, is to read authentic books from the Salaf regarding biographies of these individuals from authors that even the Sufis won't dispute.  Many of the historians and hadeeth verifiers fit this bill.  So that may be a good place to start.






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