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Alhamdulillah. This is good news about this brother leaving SSNA. May Allaah also reward Dawud Adib for setting the example. Hopefully, others will follow.

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Brother Aboo Uyainah in addition to Aboo Tasneem was a motivation for me so I ask both of them to pardon me for my stubbornest or I will be booking a flight to the UK to appologize to Abu Uyainah's face as for Aboo Tasneem the he is right next door in New Jersey Baarakallahu feekum.  I never met Aboo Uyainah before.  Allah knows that listening to his tapes on www.troid.org and talking to him on palktalk was a blessing.  I need to hear that he has forgiven me or else I may have to spend my last US dollar and go to the UK.  Akh please forgive me baarakallahu feek!  I have some questions for the Admin:

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2. What is your name brother Admin and were are you from?  Baarakallahu feekum


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In response to al.Arabaanee, jazaakallaahu khair once once more for your willingness to rectify matters.

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I AM NO LONGER AFFILLIATED WITH SSNA

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Is it possible that brother Muhammad Islaam can let us know the nature of his last conversation with Aboo Saalih Muhammad Zurqaan al-Maghribee and how long ago that was? Since he was one of those who had a close relationship with SSNA.

كن مستفيدا أو مفيدا
أو اسكت بحلم




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IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE BENEFICIENT THE MERCIFUL
ASALAM ALAYKUM .MY NAME IS ABU ABDULLAH MUHAMMAD ISLAM
IOFFICIALLY LEFT THE SSNA AND NO LONGER WORK WITH THEM .IF ANY ONE HAS PICKED UP MY BOOK WHY THE WORD SALAFI .PLEASE KNOW THAT IT WAS DONE IN 20O1 WHILE IWAS BACK IN MALAYSIA .AND THAT IAM FREE FROM THERE HIZBIYYAH AND IDONT RECCOMEND ANYONE TO SSNA OR AL-MANHAJ.COM
OR MUHAMMAD ZORKANE AND IWILL TELL YOU WHY ...
1) MUHAMMAD ZORKANE CONSTANTLY FALLS INTO MUWAZZANAH IN REGARDS TO MAGRAWI AND HE CLAIMS THAT IT WAS MAGRAWI WHO BROUGHT THE DAWA TO MOROCCO AND THAT WE CANT JUST WRITE HIM OFF
2) HE PRAISES ABU ISHAQQ AL-HUWAINEE AND UP UNTIL NOW AL-MARIBEE
3) WHEN IINFORMED HIM THAT SHAYKH RABEE HAFIZULLAH WARNED AGAINST QSS HE STATED THAT QSS STILL WILL HAVE PEOPLE WHO ATTEND AND THAT THE JORDANIANS WILL COME TO THE US TO CLEAR UP THE ISSUES

4) HE NEVER (MUHAMMAD ZORKANE) NEVER CUTT HIS TIES WITH YAHYAH IBRAHIM AND THE SSNA BOOK OF MASJID AL-AQSA WAS TRANSLATED BY YAHYAH HIS NAME JUST WASNT PUT ON IT I KNOW BECAUSE IWAS WAS SUPPOSED TO PRINT THIS BOOK IN MALAYSIA

5) I TRIED TO COVER THE BROTHERS FAULTS AND BE PATIENT BUT I LOVE THE BROTHER FOR ALLAH AND IHOPE BY THE DOWNFALL OF THE SSNA THAT HE RETURNS TO THE MAJOR SCHOLARS
AND MAY ALLAH REWARD OUR TEACHER THE PIONEER OF THE DAWA-AT-AS-SALAFIYYAH IN THE WEST ABOO TASNEEM IMAM DAWUD ADIYB AL-NEWARKEE HAFIZULLAH WHO OUT OF LOVE AND CONCERN AND HIS INSIGHT OPENED MY EYES TO ISSUES THAT IDIDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT DUE TO BEING WRAPPED UP IN ALOT OF PERSONAL BUINESS AND TRAVELING ALL OVER THE PLANET
ITHANK ALLAH FOR OUR ELDER WHO WE SHOULD ALL LOVE HONOUR AND RESPECT AND HAS TAUGHT US ALL...HE WASNT HASTY TO CUTT ME OFF DUE TO BEING INVOLVED WITH SSNA WE HAVE HISTORY AND HE KNEW HAFIZULLAH THAT I JUST WASNT AWARE OF HOW SERIOUS CERTAIN THINGS WERE AND THAT THESE ISSUES HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE ...
AND IF IOFFENED ANYONE IN TROID.SP.OR PHILLY (TAWFEEQ&AND ABU MUHAMMAD AND BROTHER KASHIF
ALLAH IS MY WITNESS IASK YOU TO OVER SEE MY ERRORS AND REALIZE ISTAND WITH YOU -AND TO PLEASE WHEN ANY EVENTS COME UP OR YOU PUBLISH NEWS LETTERS PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME AS IM ACTIVE NOT ONLY IN PRISON DAWA BUT ALSO DAWA IN THE STREET ...I HOPE MADE MYSELF CLEAR AND THAT IWAS UNDERSTOOD
SUBHANAKALLAHUMA WABEE HUMDIK ASHADUANLAHILLAHAH ILLAANT NASTAGFIRUKA WAITOOBOOILAYK....

ABU ABDULLAH-MUHAMMAD ISLAM AL-YATEEMMEE

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BISMILAH WAL-HAMDOLILAH WASALT WASALAM ALARASOOLILAH
SALLAHU ALAHI WASALAM AMA BAD

ASALAM ALAYKUM THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO MUHAMMAD ZORKANE WAS EITHER SATAURDAY OR SUNDAY AND I INFORMED HIM OF WHAT SHAYKH RABEE HAFIZULLAH SAID IN REGARDS TO ABDUL MUNIM AND QSS... AND HE BLEW IT OFF WITH QSS WILL STILL HAVE PEOPLE ATTENDING THERE CONFERENCES AND THAT THE SHUYOOKH (WHEN HE SAYS THAT IT MEANS THE JORDANIANS WILL ATTEND AND CLEAR THE MATTERS UP AND THE QSS CONFERENCE AND BEFORE THIS TIME ISPOKE TO HIM I GAVE HIM SHAYKH RABEES PHONE NUMBER-SHAYKH UBAYDAL-JABIREES PHONE NUMBER AND ABOO TASNEEMS PHONE NUMBER AND TOLD HIM TO GO TO SALAFITALK.NET TO LISTEN TO THE TAPE - AND AFTER ALL THAT HIS RESPONSE WAS JUST QSS HAS ALARGE FOLLWING AND PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM ...THAT WAS THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMELS BACK FOR ME AND REALIZE THAT THIS MAN IS MUTASSASSIP TO ANYTHING THAT THE JORDANIANS SAY AND THEY CANT BE WRONG .. AND HE HAD NO REGARD FOR WHAT SHAKEE RABEE HAD SAID WHATSOEVER I HAVENT SPOKE TO HIM SINCE ..AND IM NOT SENDING THIS MONTHS PLEDGE AND IM RETURNING TO MASJID AL-ALBANEE ALL THE BOOKS AND TAPES I HAD STORED UP IN MY BASEMENT IM OUT  WHEN HE MADE3 THAT STATEMENT IT PROVED TO ME THAT NOT ONLY IS THIS MAN CONFUSED BUT HES DANGEROUS BECAUSE HE CAN THROUGH HIS DOUBTS TRY TO MAKE OTHERS DOUBT THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF JARH WA TADEEL CAN YOU IMAGINE IF YAHYAH IBN MAEEN WARNED AGAINST AN INDIVIDUAL AND SOME ONE SAID THAT PERSON HES WARNED ABOUT HE HAS SUPPORTERS CONTINUE TO GO TO HIS DARS.........ITS OK AOOZOOBILLAH AND ALSO DURING THE LAST CONDITION MUHAMMAD ZORKANE MADE A STATEMENT THAT WAS GHAREEB HE SAID WE DONT HAVE TO LOVE SHAYKH RABEE AND SHAYKH FALIH WE DONT EVEN KNOW THEM .... THERE NOT LIKE IMAM AHMAD OR BUKHARI...
WALAHEE HE SAID THIS AND IFOUND THAT BEING AROUND HIM AND BEING IN HIS COMPANY KEPT ME IN A STATE OF CLOUDINESS MAY ALLAH GUIDE HIM HE HAS TO LET GO BECAUSE HES BECOME BLIND DUE TO LOVE OF THE PEOPLE MORE THAN THE HAQQ ... MY NASEEYHAH TO MUHAMMAD ZORKAN IS CALL SHAYKH RABEE AND CUTT YOUR TIES WITH JORDON UNTIL THEY COME CLEAR AND POSSIBLY MEET WITH SHAYKH RABEE &AND SHAYKH FALIH MASJID AHL-QURAN FELL APART AND SSNA HAS FALLEN APART ALLAH IS TRYING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING AKEE LET GO .......

ABU ABDULLAH MUHAMMAD ISLAM AL-YATEEMEEE

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bismilah-wasalatawasalam-ala-rasoolilah sallalahualaiwasalam ama bad

if one studies the brixton contract and the ssna arrangement with scrutiny one will see the similarities

1) the governing bodies were the jordanians only

2) they were the only ones consulted in all affairs

3) only there books and tapes were sold in the masjid

4) there were no tele links with other scholars or the kibaar ulama

5) there was membershipp

6) no individuals who were refuted by the major scholars that had ties with ssna or were ever mentioned on the website

7) only the jordanians were invited to speak at the seminars and conferences unlike s.p who would invite
shuyookh from jordan.saudia.yemen.and the gulf

abu abdullah muhammad islam al-yateemee

its a carbon copy of the brixton contract


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Bismillaah alhamdulillaah was-salaatu was-salaamu 'alaa rasoolillaah wa ba'd

Even though I'm not known to most, I would like to make clarification myself: I too free myself from SSNA. I was also a member of SSNA and in fact was the one that recorded their last conference and their 2nd and last seminar. My last direct contact with Muhammad Zorqne was the day after the conference in Philly with Aboo Hakeem Bilaal Davis and Aboo Abdillaah Hasan as-Sumaalee in mid August. At that conf. a brother had approached to verify a statement from Muhammad Zorqane against Shaykh Fawzee al-Atharee. I wanted to ascertain the truth of it, so I called Muhammad and asked him had he said that. He told me he didn't make that statement, but he told me that both Shaykh Muhammad Moosaa Nasr and Shaykh Usaamah al-Qoosee had each made a statement belittling Shaykh Fawzee. I'm not posting their statements' now so as not to display their shubuhaat. Furthermore, in regards to the issue of Abul-Fitan al-Ma'ribee, Muhammad Zorqane was criticizing the English websites (ie. TROID, SP,etc.) for not posting "both sides" of the issue. He had also accused the brothers at TROID or in Philly (Daar ul-Hadeeth wal-Athar) of not working together with the SSNA. He had previously expressed his desire to see SSNA as the mother organization overseeing all of the salafee masaajid throughout North America and he'd also said that ultimately the goal was for SSNA and QSS to become one in this matter.

Again, I free myself from SSNA and pray that the salafees may be protected from this fitnah revolving around Abul-Fitan. Ameen.

as-salaamu 'alaykum

Aboo Khadeejah Abdul-Malik al-Kanadi

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By Allaah you have spoken the truth muhammad.islam! One of the students of knowledg here told us, that even though the contract was in Brixton designed for the UK, the actual details of that contract is what is being implemented exactly in the US, even if it did not exist on paper!! This was so many months ago that we were informed.

We also read some statements, a very long time ago, on one of those sites maybe al-manhaj or ssna something like "we are just like servants for the scholars" (i.e. we are totally subservient to them and them alone and it seems this is the tarbiyah that was forced upon those poor individuals) and also there were lectures organised with titles like "do not learn knowledge in order to compete with the scholars" (i.e. do not sit with other scholars and learn manhaj and jarh from them so as to exit from us and our subservience).

As Shaikh Ubayd (hafidhahullaah) said about that contract, "Hizbiyyah the likes of which has never been seen before" or words with that meaning.

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Bismilla Was Salaatu Was Salaam Alaa Rasoolillah

Our brother Abu Maryam has done a honorable action by leaving the likes of SSNA, walhamdu lillah, but there is still much more that he needs to clarify!  He should not be accepted with both hands open right away.  There have been objections to his previous posts on Islaam1.net and other items that were present on AL Manhaj.com.  The brother must clarify his position on these objections and openly retract them!

Wassalaamu Alaikum
Kashif As Salafi

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Abdulilah, your post in this thread has been removed since the questions you asked have been replied to by Abu Maryam in the "Students of knowledge" section. If you want to read  his response, then you can reply to it in that thread instead of this one.

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jazakallaahu khaiaran, i have replied to him in detail walillaahil hamd. I saw sheikh al Banna tonight and again he said "tell him he was mistaken" to put out an incorrect summary of tamayu' on almanahaj.com regarding the meeting between him and Abdulrahman Abdulkhaaliq. You must take it back brother Isma'eel and be honest enough to accept this error instead you imply i mistranslated to the sheikh when i told him in English as well!! Allaahu mustaa'aan.

الـعلم قـال الله قـال رسوله     قال الصحابة هم أولوا العرفان

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May Allah save us from the Hizbiyyah and may Allah bless Shaikh Rabie, Faleh, Ubaid and other salafi scholars.

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