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Umm.Eeasa.Beg
23-04-2003 @ 12:00 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Bismillah-hirahmaan-niraheem
Asalamu aleykum

I need information on the suhaib hasan.
I have been told not to associate with people who attend that masjid tawheed, leyton, uk.
In order to pass of the information about not associating I need to know the details about his actions and also any advice on encouraging others to abstain from his speech?
I got some info from spubs from the 'Historical Development of the methodologies...Part 3 updated.p.13'  Is there anything else anywhere?
Following this history were there any newly revealed statements from the scholars that were documented?  Also spubs brothers- was this man a q-strain or b-strain?  I got a little confused.
I have heard of a pamphlet explaining this man- is this correct and is it still available?

I have been searching for this information for a while and am hitting walls.
Any help would be appreciated as Im trying to distance others from liasing with others who associate with him.
Jazakallahu kahir.
wasalamu aleykum



fath.ul-majeed
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al-Hamdu-Lillaahi Rabbil-'Aalameen was-Salaatu was-Salaamu 'alaa Ashrafil-Anbiyaa wal-Mursaleen, wa ba'd:


Just briefly some of the things that this man known as Dr. Sohaib Hasan says and does was refuted for by the Imaam of Yeman Shaykh Aboo Abdur Rahman Muqbil bin Haadee al-Waadi'ee (Rahimahullah)  ;

(1) Is that he prefers the approach of Ikhwaan ul-Muslimeen in da'wah over the approach of the Salafis and he says that they are better in their approach than the Salafis brothers.

(2) That the science of 'Jarh wa Ta'deel is a science particular to our scholars of the past, and that it is not right for this time.

(3) Most of the lectures of Dr. Hasan are given from the platforms of Ikhwaan ul-Muslimeen.

(4) And that generally Dr. Hasan is one of those who most severly opposes the Salafi da'wah in the UK.

(5) He said that you should not call the Ikhwaan, al-Ikhwaan al-Mufliseen (the bankrupt Ikhwaan), since they are Muslims and likewise they are good in their brotherhood and they are not like the Salafis in Britian who are always refuting the deviants.

Shaykh Aboo Abdur Rahman Muqbil bin Haadee al-Waadi'ee (Rahimahullah) responed to the above points of Dr. Hasan and was severely refuted by the Shaykh and the refutation is available on tape I believe at Makatabah Salafiyah, Birmingham, UK.

Then the Shaykh advised the Salafis with the following;

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As for the question of how you are to deal with him, then if you are able to prevent him from your masaajid, then prevent him so that he does not corrupt the hearts of your youth. But if you are not able to prevent him, then when he comes, you depart from the masjid and leave him to address the pillars in t he masjid! Do not sit with a deviant, one who is astray.


spubs.com
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He is affected by the B-Strain of Ikhwaani Manhaj
  • co operation with ahl ul-bid'ah
  • defence of ahl ul-bidah
  • accommodation of ahl ul-bid'ah, the jam'iyyaat and jamaa'at of hizbiyyah
  • absence of walaa and baraa upon the aqeedah and manhaj
  • and false principles related to the above
You can also refer to Part 5, there is a section specifically on him:

http://spubs.com/r.cfm?ID=MNJ180005



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This message was edited by spubs.com on 4-24-03 @ 12:38 AM

MSbN.Ahmad
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Wa'alaykissalaam Umm Eeasa.  The speech of Shaykh Muqbil about him has been transcribed and is available at:

http://www.troid.org/articles/manhaj/innovation/groupsandpartisanship/suhaybhasan.htm

ikram.mohammed
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Audio concerning Suhaib Hasan can be found at Troid.org The Truth about 'Abdul-Haadee and Suhayb Hasan and [url=http://www.troid.org/audio/manhaj/innovation/groupsandpartisanship/callers.htm]Callers to Innovation in the West[/url]

There is also a clear article on [url=http://www.spubs.com/sps/sp.cfm?subsecID=BDH05&articleID=bdh050005&articlePages=1]Is the Science of al-Jarh wat-Ta'deel Abrogated?[/url] posted by the brothers at Spubs.com

sajid_chauhan_81
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Most of the links to troid mentioned above are broken since the website underwent an upgrade mashAllah. Below is the new link where all the above articles/audio refuting Dr. Suhayb, al-Umari and Jamiat Ahlul Hadith(UK) can be found.

http://www.troid.org/articles/manhaj/innovation/groupsandpartisanship/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=133&Itemid=344






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