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UmmSyid
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   Insha Allah someone will be able to help me with this, I read on an egroup that I belong to, that Sheik Nasir ud-Din al Albani (Rahimahu 'Llah), spoke of hitting the children ( as punishment for bad manners and disobedience), this posting said that the Sheik said that hitting chidren for any reason before the age of 10 was not permissible, since we have been instructed to, "instruct them at 7 and beat them at 10..." in regards to the prayers.  I have been searching for an explanation, but have not been able to find it.  Insha Allah  someone can help me find whether or not this is a correct saying from the Sheik.  

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Ruling on Hitting Children
Author: Sheikh Muhammad Naasir Ad-Deen Al-Albaani


Is it permissible to hit children as a form of discipline?
Author: Sheikh Muhammad Naasir ad-Deen al-Albaani

Question: "The teacher may sometimes turn to hitting in order to discipline
is student. Firstly, is it permissible to hit the student? Secondly, is it permissible to hit him in the face?"

Answer:  "As far as hitting in the face, this is not permissible due to the
statement of the Prophet, may peace and blessings be upon him, "Do
not hit the face and do not defigure." Regarding the second part, is
it permissible to hit the student in general as a means of
discipline; the answer must make mention of the statement of the
Prophet, "Command your children to pray when they reach the age of
seven and hit them if they leave it off when they reach the age of
ten and separate them from each other in the beds."

"In this hadith is a proof that for the student, rather the child,
whether he is a student or not, it is not permissible for the one in
charge of him to hit him due to his deficiency in obeying the
commands until he reaches the age of ten. Command your children to
pray when they reach the age of seven and hit them if they leave it
off when they reach the age of ten and separate them from each other
in the beds. Without a doubt, the Hukm (ruling) or Ahimiyah
(importance) of whatever knowledge any teacher wants to present to
his students will not be equal to the importance of prayer.
Therefore, if the Prophet himself prohibits the father from hitting
his child due to not praying, until he reaches the age of ten, then
with all the more reason, it is not permissible for other than the
>father (from those in charge) to hit the children for something
other than leaving off the salah until he reaches the age of ten.
Thus, it is not permissible for the teacher to hit the child even if
he did not obey him regarding the salah. What else exists from the
other affairs that are as important as the Salah. "In this
connection, I would like to also add that the age of puberty for
girls and boys differs tremendously from country to country. I know
that in general, in countries of warm climate, the hormones may
mature at a faster rate; thus the age of takleef (duty:
obligation to observe precepts of religion) would be reached at an
earlier age than it would in a colder climate. Then this rule should
not be taken in a general way but rather each country should study
the children or it should be done in a more detailed way. For example
one would find out whether this particular child reached the age of
>puberty or is he still in childhood? So whatever seems to
predominate from this study, the hukm (ruling) would be decided."

He was then asked: "With regards to hitting, if the child had bad
banners and hit.." Sheikh Al-Albaani began saying:

"There is no hitting, no hitting at all. Rather there is directing,
advising and speech. Sometimes words have a greater affect on people
than hitting. In addition, hitting with some people does not help at
all, rather it makes them continue on what their upon more and more.
What is important is that the best of all guidance is the guidance of
Muhammad, may peace and blessings be upon him. Thus the child is not
to be hit so long that he did not reach the age of puberty.

"On this note, I understand from the gradual teaching of the Prophet
that was previously mentioned in the hadith, 'Command your children
to pray . ' to the end of the hadith, I understand from this hadith
that it is wrong what I see take place with many fathers. He commands
his child to pray before reaching the age of seven. This is
opposition to the commandment of the Prophet, may peace and blessings
be upon him. 'Command your children to pray when they reach the age
of seven.' That is why it is not appropriate for the Muslim to put
the commandment in effect before what the Prophet defined initially.
It is ok for the father to permit his child to come along with him to
pray with him in the masjid. But as far as him telling him, "Come
here, get up, go make wudoo' and pray." and the child has not yet
reached the age of seven, this is opposition to this hadith, so I
just wanted to remind you all of that."

He was also asked: "Sheikh, regarding hitting, sometimes you find
students leave their houses and have no manners, even good advice
does not benefit them, so does hitting them fall into necessity?"

Sheikh Al-Albaani replied:
"There is no necessity, where is the necessity here. Can you
comprehend that hitting would benefit when the One who created him
said, do not hit him until he reaches the age of seven."

Excerpt taken from an audio cassette lecture titled: "La Qushoor fil
Islam." by: Sheikh Al-Albaani
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However, when this question was asked to Dr. Saleh as Saleh in his paltalk class, "Understanding Islam," he answered that it IS permissible to use spanking as a form of discipline if it is used as a last resort and done gently.  So, this matter needs further elaboration. -Maryam


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