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abu.naimah.shamsuddi
11-07-2005 @ 6:34 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Abu Na'imah Shamsuddin Abdul-Hakim ib (Rochester,NY, USA)
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Salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah;

I have heard that Imam Ahmad [rahimahullah] and others have said that Salat behind certain types of innovators require the individual [who is firm in his Aqeedah wa manhaj of Ahlu Sunnah wal Jama'at] who prays behind them to repeat his Salat. Does anyone know what evidences/proofs this position was established on?

Abu Na'imah Shamsuddin Abdul-Hakim ibn Harold Simmons, Aiken, SC, USA

Umm.Rizqin.Rosinah
13-07-2005 @ 6:28 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Umm Rizqin unspecified (As-shehr,Yemen)
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Assalamualaykum warahmatuALlahi waabrakatuh

This article proofs otherwise.

refer to page 16 ,3rd paragraph
and 17 3rd para.

until pg 18




http://www.troid.org/articles/ibaadah/knowledge/knowledgeindetailedaffairs/rulingconcerningtakfeer.pdf

wallaahu a'lam .





shahid393
14-07-2005 @ 1:30 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Aboo Husaam Shaheed ibn George Williams (Wichita, KS USA)
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wa 'alaykum us-salaam wa rahmatullaah,

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Moosaa
14-07-2005 @ 3:49 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Abul-'Abbaas Moosaa ibn John Richardson (Jeddah, Saudi Arabia)
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in general, there are innovators whose innovation has taken them outside the religion, and innovators who are still muslims.  when a person prays behind the first group and he knows about his condition, then his prayer would clearly have to be repeated, since he prayed behind a disbeliever.  examples of these are like the qadaree (one who denies qadar) or the one who says the qur'aan is created.  they used to make takfeer of such innovators, and thus prayer is not to be offered behind them.  and if you found a statement from the salaf saying that prayer behind an innovator is to be repeated, then this would apply to this example clearly.  and Allaah knows best.

Moosaa ibn John Richardson

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abu.naimah.shamsuddi
09-08-2005 @ 3:00 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Abu Na'imah Shamsuddin Abdul-Hakim ib (Rochester,NY, USA)
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wa alaikum salam wa rahmatullah;

Jazakallahu khair brother Moosaa, it is clear why if someone who prayed behind someone deemed outside the fold of Islam would have to offer prayer over, THEY HAVE NOT PRAYED! It is best to frequent the correct masajid to avoid this misfortune.

Abu Na'imah Shamsuddin Abdul-Hakim ibn Harold Simmons, Aiken, SC, USA

Umm.Rizqin.Rosinah
10-08-2005 @ 3:13 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalamualaykum

a reminder for us insha Allah

The Necessity For the Imaam To Have Correct Aqeedah
Author: Shaikh Badee ud-Deen Shah as-Sindee

http://spubs.com/sps/downloads/pdf/GRV120001.pdf







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