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NuffinButDaHaqq
21-04-2004 @ 9:31 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Umm Azeezah Sudani bint Ishaaq (york, PA,USA)
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as salaamu alikum wa rahmatullah

i understand the rulings of using the toilet, like not saying Allahs name, talking, reciting qur'an replying to salaams of the person who gives them etc., but do these same rulings apply to when using the shower/bathub, or even to use the sink and wash one's face or straighten oneself out in the mirror?
as here in the west, toilets and showers are in the same room...

barakallahu feekum

written:umm azeezah

كن عالما او متعلما او محبا لاهله

اخوكم
ابو عزيزة عبد المجيد خزيمة بن رتشارد البليزي

n.ahsan.shah
25-04-2004 @ 12:55 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Abu Ishaaq Nadeem Ahsan-Sh (Jeddah)
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I have heard more than one of the ulema discussing this issue and what they say is that the sink area is not a direct part of the toilet area such that it takes the exact same ruling as the toilet. Further, the toilet is also a lot less filthier than the ones once known, since all waste is flushed away from the area immediately.

Hence as I remember shaykh Mohammad albanna explaining that one would avoid making Dhikr while ON the toilet, and as i remember shaykh Uthaymeen explaining (on the radio) that if one sneezes while in the bathroom then he says alhamdulillah to himself, without voice (but with slight lip movement) and, from what i remember shaykh saleh al-fawzan saying (on the radio) that the sink is totally out of the "restricted" area even moreso that the waste is flushed away and so one would say bismillah for wudhu normally while at the sink.

As for WHEN to say the dua for entering the toilet, I've heard shaykh al-banna saying that you say it AS you approach the TOILET within the bathroom, though I can't get my self to stop saying it as I enter the bathroom door!


Wassalamalykum wa rahmatullah
Abu Ishaaq Nadeem ibn Mohammad Ahsan-shah

((من كظم غيظاً و هو قادر أن ينفذه دعاه الله على رؤوس الخلائق حتى يخيره من الحور العين يزوجه منها ما يشاء))
[صحيح الجامع رقم 6522]

shahid393
25-04-2004 @ 12:54 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Aboo Husaam Shaheed ibn George Williams (Wichita, KS USA)
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as-salaamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullaah,

quote:

As an added note, the word ?toilet? in this article refers only to the area immediately surrounding the place of relief and not, as is commonly understood in English, the entire bathroom.


source:  http://www.troid.org/articles/ibaadah/knowledge/knowledgeindetailedaffairs/toiletmanners.htm


aboo husaam shaheed ibn george williams
wichita, ks  usa

umm.abdulkarim
10-03-2009 @ 2:51 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Umm abdulkareem bint Muhammad (uk)
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Asalaamu alaykum wa'rahmatullaah.

Brother shahid the link is not working , so perhaps if you have the link can you please post it again.

Jazaakumullaahu khayr

umm abdulkareem bint Muhammad
UK.

ibnwaheed
11-03-2009 @ 6:33 AM    Notify Admin about this post
unspecified Hassan bin Waheed (Teaneck, NJ, USA)
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TROID did some extensive restructuring of their website since the link to the article was posted on this forum.

I think you're looking for this:

http://www.troid.org/ibaadah/actions-of-the-messenger/toilet-etiquette.html






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